May 31, 2004
I don't like the recent trend of this graph:
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Hey, I'm doing my part! I even stuck your URL in the boot files of every computer in my department but those pesky IT guys caught it before it could be implimented. (damn them).
Don't feel too bad. My hits are down too. Everyone must be hanging out at Unablogger.
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The military loves to "process" people. No matter where you go, you must go through "inprocessing" when you arrive, and "outprocessing" when you go. You go through the same sort of things for quarterly and annual training, medical check-ups, vaccinations.
I went through inprocessing when I arrived on station here. One apparently mandatory aspect of inprocessing is The Video of People Doing Cool Stuff to Get You Excited About Your Assignment. We had the obligatory testosterone shots of jets flashing past and bombs being dropped and impacting on tanks and fighting positions with impressive and lethal flashes of light and billows of smoke...
...but what moved me the most, what got me choked up, was simply the shots of people doing their jobs. Watching guys use pickaxes and shovels to dig trenches for cables and/or pipes. Seeing men and women synchronously lift tent poles to set the roof of the new chow hall tent. An airman in a grease-grimed uniform ducking under an engine to tighten a bolt on the underside of the wing. An NCO gently sliding the fuse into Mk 82 bomb.
The shots weren't staged; all the airmen seemed oblivious of the filming. I can only assume it was because they had a job to do that absorbed too much of their attention to waste time or energy being self-conscious.
We do our job. We do our job under conditions that would make most Americans quit in disgust. We do our jobs on holidays when we'd rather be home with our families. One co-worker called me "Holiday Man", because in a span of about 6 months the list of important dates I miss includes just about everything except Columbus Day: Anniversary, Veteran's Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's Eve, my birthday, my wife's birthday, Memorial Day, Father's Day, and Independence Day. We do our job even under fire, even if it means our lives are given. Our blood, sweat, and tears are spilled in the dust of the Middle East for you, for our families, and for our comrades.
At some point, it's no longer a job. At some point, it is a duty that we have undertaken, a burden that we shoulder. Why? Why us? Because we can. Because others will not. Because sometimes, someone just has to "take one for the team", and fairness and equality don't always enter into it.
That doesn't mean we are special, or different, or even heroes. Some of us join out of chance. Some of us join because it seems like the best choice at the time. Some of us join for purely selfish reasons, and only later grow into the responsibility. I know that for every one of us here, there are 10 people back home who would be willing, even eager, to take our place. But it is not to be. Your job is vital, too.
You must keep the nation for us. Give us something to come home to. Keep the economy humming so that we can afford to give the military pay raises and quality-of-life improvements and new, up-to-date equipment and top-notch training. Love your wives/husbands, teach your children. Vote for the candidate of your choice after you educate yourself. Keep the faith.
It's your duty.
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Nathan,
You haven't heard from me in a while, but I do check in occasionally, though I don't usually have time to respond. Thanks for the post...would you mind if I shared this one with others on my mailing list? I'll even keep it anonymous if you prefer...it's good for people to hear these kinds of things from those in the service.
By the way, I recently ran into RFD, of all people, at a handbell concert, of all places. If you want I will let you know of his whereabouts and goings-on.
Take care, Nathan!
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So my laptop is not working, and that immediately wipes out about 4/5ths of my entertainment and "me-time" mood recovery activities: Jagged Alliance 2, Writing, Music (listening), and Music (composing/transcribing). That's contributed mightily to the general bad mood and crankiness that I hope I've prevented from affecting my posting too much...
I'm working on trying to get it fixed, but I've received no word yet.
That leaves me with my guitar.
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An old Army buddy hooked me up with Jon Kammerer, an innovative guitar maker out of Keokuk, Iowa. He built me a Deployment Guitar, designing it to not collect or show dust and to be resistant to humidity/temperature changes. It is a sweet-sounding and -playing guitar, easily the finest guitar I've ever played. It's so fun to play I play longer and more often (which was the original idea behind Aim toothpaste, as I recall), which has had an immediate impact on my guitar skills.
I've been trying for years to learn how to play jazz guitar. It just hasn't sunk in. However, I stumbled across a book of jazz progressions that I brought with me, and am working on memorizing them. I run through approximately the same 60 progressions every few days, and am slowly getting the chord shapes established into muscle memory. I think (and am hoping) that my chord vocabulary should be good enough that by the time I return home I will be able to play through a number of standards. We'll see. But if so, then I will work on learning a dozen to a score of standards before I attempt the next huge leap of substitutions.
In return for lending me the guitar, I'm trying to help Jon out by letting people play on and fall in love with the guitar to raise interest in buying one for themselves. It's a great situation: a bunch of young, single guys getting hazardous duty pay and tax-free base pay who miss playing their guitar getting to try out a sweet electric guitar that sounds awesome and is cheaper than they would expect. So far I've only brought it out 4 times, and had 2 people decide to buy one, and a 3rd strongly considering it...
If anyone out there is interested at all, you can go to Jon's Site and look around. If your interest is piqued enough that you'd like to buy, contact me first, because I might be able to wrangle an extra 10% off for you...
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"I'd like to feel her pain, if you know what I mean..."
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If I was married to Hillary I'd have been checking out the interns too.
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"So George, tell me. How's Barbara in the sack?"
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"Hey, George, those twins are pretty cute. You want the blonde one?"
"Bill, you asshat, those are my granddaughters."
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Nathan on May 31, 2004 07:09 AM
AN AMERICAN REVOLUTION
2004 Independent party candidates
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Rodney Dill on May 31, 2004 09:47 AM
"To be honest Bill I never liked you much, but your celebrity has certainly spiced up my sex life, just last night Barbara gave me a 'Lewinski'."
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Rodney Dill on May 31, 2004 01:26 PM
"Gosh, Bill, you're right. These 'X-ray specs' really do work."
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Remember George if anyone ask, we didn't inhale .
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Those with conditions that can usually be corrected medically - such as deformed feet and cleft lips and palates - are instead being terminated.
And the number of abortions of Down's syndrome babies now outstrips live births, despite the fact that those with the condition can live a long and fulfilling life. As screening techniques improve, the trend is likely to grow - horrifying pro-life campaigners.
Shouldn't that horrify everyone? More below:
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'These figures are symptomatic of a eugenic trend of the consumerist society hell-bent on obliterating deformity - and at what cost to its own humanity? ' said ethicist Jacqueline Laing, of London Metropolitan University. 'We are obliterating the willingness of people to accept disability. Babies are required to fit a description of normality before they are allowed to be born.'
The figures for 2002 - the latest available - from the Office for National Statistics show more women than ever are choosing to terminate babies with potential handicaps, with such abortions rising 8 per cent in a year.
It has renewed fears that strict laws on termination due to disabilities are being flouted by doctors.
The 2002 figures show five babies were aborted because they had deformed feet, and a sixth because of a cleft lip and palate.
In 2000 and 2001, nine babies were aborted due to cleft lip and palate, while a further two were aborted for cleft lip alone.
Church of England curate Joanna Jepson, who has spearheaded calls for an investigation into the abortion of a 28-week-old unborn baby with cleft palate in Herefordshire in 2001, said: 'These statistics are horrifying and show the highly consumerist attitude which is now pervading human relationships.
'I don't think anyone had any idea that so many babies had been aborted for cleft lip and palate. The fact that two were aborted for cleft lip alone is a slur on people with the condition.
'I cannot believe the medical profession are standing by decisions to abort babies for these reasons.'
Delayed motherhood may be partly responsible for rising birth defects, because women over 40 have the highest risk of congenital abnormality in their babies.
Doctors say improvements in technology, such as ultra-sound and blood tests, have helped increase the number of babies diagnosed with abnormality before birth. But a number are disturbed that abortions are being carried out on the grounds of the baby's serious disability when in fact it has a correctable condition such as feet abnormality or cleft lip.
Ground E of the Abortion Act makes termination legal up to nine months if a child has a serious risk of physical or mental abnormality.
A total of 1,863 pregnancies were ended in 2002 on this basis - up 8 per cent from the 1,722 carried out in 2001, according to ONS data from the National Congenital Anomaly System.
Experts say it is likely that many exceeded the 24-week limit for terminations for socalled 'social' reasons. Most of the estimated 185,000 abortions in Britain every year are on 'social' grounds.
Two doctors must judge that the risk to the woman's physical or mental health of continuing the pregnancy outweighs the dangers of termination.
In reality, this means women who do not want to have a baby are able to easily terminate it. Only around one per cent of abortions are carried out beyond the 24-week limit, generally due to deformities.
Terminations for chromosomal abnormalities, including Down's syndrome, rose by 17 per cent - from 591 in 2001 to 691 in 2002.
There were more babies with Down's aborted than born with the condition in 2002, with 372 terminations compared with 329 births.
The NHS was last year told to offer Down's screening to women of all ages - including those in younger age groups with lower risks of the condition - prompting fears that figures for last year will be even higher.
The charity LIFE said it fears women may come under increased pressure if their unborn babies are judged to have special needs.
Trustee Nuala Scarisbrick said: 'This is straightforward eugenics. The message is being sent out to disabled people that they should not have been born. It is appalling and abhorrent.'
Campaigner Patrick Cusworth said: 'Such statistics are an indictment of a society which places a conditional value upon its citizens, based upon how "useful" they may prove to be in later life.'
Consultant obstetrician Maggie Blott said although the reasons for the increase in Ground E abortions are not clear, it may be partly due to screening and partly to older mothers.
Women aged 40 to 44 have the highest rate of abnormalities such as spina bifida, heart defects and Down's syndrome in live and still births, at 160 per 10,000. This compares with 107 per 10,000 in those aged 25 to 27.
Mrs Blott, of the Royal Victoria Infirmary in Newcastle upon Tyne, said: 'You have to give women a choice and most people feel screening is a good thing.
'If a baby with a heart problem is diagnosed before birth, doctors can be ready when it is born and ensure it gets the best treatment.
'Some serious abnormalities do not become apparent on ultrasound until later in the pregnancy - these include some kidney problems.
'It is likely that most of the abortions in this report were after 24 weeks, because before that, you could get an abortion without needing a reason such as a physical deformity.
'I personally don't think cleft lip counts as a serious abnormality. The Abortion Act is very clear that is has to be life-threatening really, and nobody could describe a cleft lip as life-threatening. The same goes for deformities of the feet.'
Anne Weyman, chief executive of the Family Planning Association, said techniques to detect foetal abnormalities have become very sophisticated, giving women more information on which to base decisions.
'Ending a wanted pregnancy because of serious foetal abnormality is a difficult decision for the woman,' she added. 'It is vital she receives support and guidance to make the right decision for her and her family.'
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When I was pregnant with my last child, I was 30. I had my first when I was 21. I knew that I was in a "riskier" category simply by being 30. R and I prayed much for the health of all of our children, but I think I tended to worry more during that last pregnancy at 30. One day while praying, I realized that the gift was the child, whether it was "healthy" in my terms or not. The scripture that says "Behold, children are a gift of the Lord; The fruit of the womb is a reward." never mentions health or ability. It simply says children. I also realized that by thinking that a healthy child is a preferred child, I was, in absentia, supporting the thought process that abortion is o.k. if the child isn't "healthy."
I was so challenged. How I was I to now pray? What would my reaction be to news of a child without "perfect" health? I was due to deliver the end of May. I took my two older girls to a "Young Author's" contest the first of May. One of the featured authors there was June Rae Wood. She was discussing her book, The Man Who Loved Clowns. It is a fictional account of her brother who was born with Down's Syndrome. She described his eccentricities with affection and fond recollection. I began to weep. I could hear several other mothers in the crowd doing so, as well. She could see the reaction of her listeners and it touched her deeply. After she finished, I went up to her and thanked her for sharing something so precious and personal. She signed my daughter's book and we left. Later, that May, I delivered my last child. While she was born with perfect health, in my heart was born a better understanding of the variety of gifts that God gives us and room was made to better accept those with true thanksgiving.
Thanks for posting this news, Nathan. It has reminded me to pray for those who are deemed unwelcome and also for those who are sadly blinded by underestimating the contributions and love capable of those named "unworthy."
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Elena Dementieva Downs Lindsay Davenport at French Open.
Cuz, yanno, she was crazy out there. She showed mad tennis skills.
And is it just me, but isn't all this discussion of "love" and "scoring" in relation to something called the "French Open" sound like yet another SSM advocacy gathering?
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General Franco is still dead, and Muqtada al-Sadr is still an untrustworthy fool.
Please note the paragraph stating:
The US-led coalition has said it was not a party to the agreement, but would suspend offensive operations to give the deal a chance to bring peace to Najf.
The US had no reason to go along with the agreement. We have al-Sadr on the run and we could have pressed our advantage. But we haven't really pressed any advantage we've gained yet. Why?
Because we are teaching them. We are not imposing order as much as encouraging maturity: fight and die, or assimilate and live.
I'm sure we are still pursuing leads in military intelligence to locate ringleaders and weapons locations. But it seems that we are content to wait for them to attack us before we take them out.
It makes some sense, on some levels. I'm not sure I would have the confidence to advocate this method. But I can see that if I had a foster child who had been severely physically abused, I might choose a more patient, non-reactive, certainly non-violent response to that child acting out. Yes, I realize this is more serious than that, that our soldiers are dying in following this plan. But don't police officers do the same thing? Don't Peacekeepers do the same thing? Haven't we, at some unspecified point, changed our mission from major combat to peacekeeping? It sure seems like it from this vantage, and no, they don't keep me in the loop; I'm guessing as much as anyone else is.
If I'm correct, then we are showing restraint and patience to demonstrate that attacking only brings death, but those who don't attack won't be pursued....for now. It implies that amnesty might be possible for those who lay down their arms and begin helping rebuild the nation. It shows that we are not an occupying force trying to insidiously make Iraq dependent on us enough to steal oil. It lends credence to the oft-repeated intent to leave as soon as Iraq is peaceful and stable. It gives them the chance to learn there are other ways to seek goals other than fighting and killing.
We'll see. We've shown remarkable restraing over the last month, and all over Southeast Iraq, Muqtada al-Sadr is being blamed for the violence and the damaged mosques, not the US. This is the only explanation I can think of...and it does seem to be working....
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A tragedy, yes.
Full text in the extended entry.
I'm really not sure what else to say about it. From the report, it is my understanding that his actions were still heroic, and still saved lives in his platoon. It wasn't a case of a bomb going off course or badly-aimed fire coming from behind, it was an engagement in which both sides thought the other was the enemy in a condition of bad lighting and visibility restriction.
...I just didn't want to ignore the story, even if I have nothing significant to say about it...
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Pat Tillman was probably killed by friendly fire in Afghanistan after a U.S. solider mistakenly shot at an Afghan soldier in the former NFL player's unit, military officials said Saturday.
Tillman walked away from a $3.6 million contract with the Arizona Cardinals to join the Army after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Previous military statements suggested he was killed by enemy fire.
According to an Army investigation, Tillman was shot to death on April 22 after the friendly Afghan soldier in Tillman's unit was mistakenly fired upon, and other U.S. soldiers then fired in the same direction.
"While there was no one specific finding of fault, the investigation results indicate that Cpl. Tillman probably died as a result of friendly fire while his unit was engaged in combat with enemy forces," Lt. Gen. Philip R. Kensinger Jr. said in a brief statement to reporters at the Army Special Operations Command.
Kensinger said the firefight took place in "very severe and constricted terrain with impaired light" with 10 to 12 enemy combatants firing on U.S. forces.
But an Afghan military official told The Associated Press on Saturday that Tillman died because of a "misunderstanding" when two mixed groups of American and Afghan soldiers began firing wildly in the confusion following a land mine explosion.
Speaking on condition of anonymity, the Afghan official said, "(There) were no enemy forces" present when Tillman died.
Kensinger, who heads Army Special Forces, took no questions Saturday morning after reading the Army statement. An Afghan Defense Ministry official declined to comment on whether enemy forces were present, while U.S. military officials in Afghanistan referred all queries to Fort Bragg.
In Washington, Pentagon officials refused to comment on the Afghan report.
According to the Army's investigation, Tillman's team had split from a second unit when a Ranger whom the Army did not identify fired on a friendly Afghan soldier, mistaking him for the enemy.
Seeing that gunfire and not realizing its origin, other U.S. soldiers fired in the same direction, killing Tillman and an Afghan soldier. Two other Rangers were wounded in the gunfight.
"The results of this investigation in no way diminished the bravery and sacrifice displayed by Cpl. Tillman," Kensinger said.
Tillman, 27, left his position as a starting safety for Arizona to join the Army following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. He was posthumously promoted from specialist to corporal and awarded a Purple Heart and Silver Star, one of the military's highest honors, awarded for gallantry on the battlefield.
Thousands of people, including celebrities and politicians, attended a memorial service at Sun Devil Stadium earlier this month. At a memorial service in his hometown of San Jose, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., called him "a most honorable man."
"While many of us will be blessed to live a longer life, few of us will ever live a better one," said McCain, who spent 5 1/2 years as a prisoner of war in Vietnam.
A woman who answered the phone Saturday at the home of Tillman's uncle, Hank Tillman, said the family would have no comment on the findings in the Army's investigation.
At Fort Bragg, an officer with the 30th Engineer Battalion said the circumstances of Tillman's death do not change his heroism.
"A lot of us sacrifice something, but no one sacrificed as much as he did to join," Sgt. Matt Harbursky said as he prepared to play a round of golf at the base course. "And it doesn't really matter how he was killed, it's sad."
Prior to Saturday, the Army's most complete account of Tillman's death came in his Silver Star citation, which said he was killed after his platoon split into two sections for what officials called a ground assault convoy. Tillman was in charge of the lead group.
When the trailing group came under mortar and small arms fire, the Army said Tillman ordered his team to return.
"Through the firing, Tillman's voice was heard issuing fire commands to take the fight to the enemy on the dominating high ground," the citation said. "Only after his team engaged the well-armed enemy did it appear their fires diminished."
The Afghan official gave the AP a differing account, based on his conversation with an Afghan fighter from the group that was separated from Tillman's. The Afghan soldier said the two groups drifted apart during the operation in the remote Spera district of Khost province, close to the Pakistani border.
"Suddenly the sound of a mine explosion was heard somewhere between the two groups and the Americans in one group started firing," the official said.
"Nobody knew what it was - a mine, a remote-controlled bomb - or what was going on, or if enemy forces were firing. The situation was very confusing," the official said.
"As the result of this firing, that American was killed and three Afghan soldiers were injured. It was a misunderstanding and afterwards they realized that it was a mine that had exploded and there were no enemy forces."
Tillman's platoon was in the area as part of an effort called Operation Mountain Storm, in which they were charged with rooting out Taliban and al-Qaida fighters.
Tillman became the first NFL player to die in combat since the Vietnam War. He was one of about 100 U.S. soldiers to have been killed in Afghanistan since the United States invaded in 2001.
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Associated Press writer Stephen Graham contributed to this report from Kabul, Afghanistan and AP Military Writer Robert Burns contributed from Washington.
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My husband keeps thinking of this and it really bothers him that it was released. He says that civilians can't truly understand combat. I read aloud your post and he liked how you worded it.
I keep trying to get him to post on my blog, he really has some life experiences as a Marine that have helped me better understand many things involved in war.
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This is just weird.
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John became the first person in Britain to be charged with inciting his own murder.
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"The news media used to tell us what we wanted to know; now they tell us what they want us to hear."
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Zombyboy asked an excellent question in this post, opining that despite all the self-congratulatory back-patting, "blogging" doesn't rise to a level that can be considered "journalism". The discussion got going pretty good, and some excellent points were made.
Something else came to me recently, but I don't want to post it there because it's been so long, no one would have seen it but Zombyboy.
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I think part of the problem is question itself. Zombyboy looks at his blog and sees little that he could consider objective journalism. I assume that if he looked at mine, he'd see none.
And yet, I think that what Bill at INDC does with his photoblogging is journalism of a very high caliber. Andy at World Wide Rant made an excellent journalistic scoop when he discovered that Israel wasn't included in a map of the Middle East (can't remember the context, someone help me out here!)
So some people are doing good journalism, at least part-time.
But Bill of INDC is only one person. World Wide Rant has how many people? 2? 3? The staff of even a small-town weekly paper usually outnumbers that.
My point?
Taken as a whole, the blogosphere is journalism. We seek out stuff, we report, we opine, we review, we correct...but the special thing about it is that it is the reader who becomes the editor. The reader, often a blogger himself, must make the decision as to what is credible, when more research is necessary for complete understanding, etc. Perhaps no individual blogger can be considered to be a true journalist, but as a whole, we are.
Think of a newspaper. If all you had were the classifieds, would that be journalism? Or the gossip column...is that journalism by itself? The tech review space....is that journalism? How about the Religion section? The comics? The Op-Eds? The Obituaries?
It's not all news, though, is it? Yet taken as a whole, it is accepted as journalism, and the person writing a human interest story that appears right above the horoscope is considered to be every bit the journalist as the person whose byline appears on the front page.
If the blogosphere is taken as a newspaper, we've got the largest dang op-ed section ever...but Zombyboy has done tech reviews. Instapundit acts as an index (among other functions). You can get law opinions and political watchdog stuff at The Volokh Conspiracy and Ipse Dixit (just to name two, although more do that than can be counted).
Look at my blogroll: You get Military, Sports (at Sportsblog), Classified Ads (at gunbroker), Op-Ed to include links to liberal bloggers, News, Humor (at Homestar Runner), Poll results (at Rasumssen Reports). If you stop by 2-3 of each type of blogger each day (although it might take some time to determine which worked best for you), you could not fail to be fully informed of all the world's events and what people think about it.
That's journalism. Even if only in the aggregate.
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The problem isn't the question, it's the definition. Depends on who's defining "journalism."
What most journalists will look at to define blogging as journalism is "reporting," like what is done by INDC Bill and the like. When they see a paucity of "reporting," they conclude that it isn't "journalism."
But I would argue that one of the problems with "journalism" as an industry today is that it has strayed too far from "reporting," into the op-ed and gossip column type stuff, with a healthy smattering of window-dressing.
So, the mainstream media suffers a credibility problem in part because they have become too much about analysis, and too little about reporting the facts - both good and bad.
Blogging, ironically, suffers a credibility problem among journalists because it has always been so much analysis and "what I did today" writing, and too little about reporting the facts - good and bad.
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The fact that journalists are even talking about bloggers is a great thing. I like the "reader as editor" motif. With blogs, you know what you get: personal journaling, diaries, partisan bickering and opinions, and maybe a little news. But that's what blogs are for, anything you want them to be. We are not journalists. We are regular people commenting about journalists. That serves a noble purpose in itself.
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La Shawn Barber on May 29, 2004 04:58 PM
Hello everyone... I was a paid journalist for 21 years... Blogging is not journalism until the following occur:
1. All publishers, editors and reporters must indentify themselves and allow readers to contact them the way print, radio and TV news organzations do.
2. All blog content must be segregated into sections, "Hard News," "Commentary" and "OpEd" so readers no what they're getting right away.
3. When hard news is reported all sources must be clearly attributed. If you use an annonymous source for a piece you must get independant comfirmation before release the report. Reporters and Editors should discuss in advance who the annonymous sources are and determine credibility. Reporters and editors must be willing to face jail rather than reveal any annonymous or confidential source once a story is published.
This is journalism 101... There's no way around it.
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Mike Heid on May 30, 2004 05:51 AM
Mike, I'd feel better about your definition if it weren't routinely violated by most (if not all) of the big newspapers. The routine assumption that "because we are journalists, we must automatically be doing the right thing) is how Jayson Blair, et al, were able to go so long making up crap...
Furthermore, every news media source I've seen routinely editorializes facts, so there goes your insistence that it must be rigidly classified into categories. Morever, I don't see Dan Rather giving his sources in his broadcasts...the watcher merely assumes it's all good. That's how CNN can get away with not telling the truth about Saddam to maintain their access.
Finally, your definition is rather circular: when television news reporting was in its infancy, journalism was probably defined in terms of newspaper journalism, and thus television journalism was excluded. Would you still insist that shows like "20/20" or "60 Minutes" are not journalism? Of course not!
What I'm driving at is that while the medium is not always the message, the unique attributes and characteristics of a new medium will inevitably give rise to new forms of old establishments. Sometimes, if the old definition excludes the new, you have to come up with a new definition. I think "blogging as journalism" is still in its infancy, as well. So, to me, a better definition of journalism would be: "A credible source of news reporting that gives people a better understanding of events they are not present to witness/experience." By that definition, blogging is clearly the wave of the future. It probably won't ever fully replace traditional news media, but there are aspects to blogging that are absolutely superior to traditional media for that...I think that will become clearer over time.
But then again, maybe not; I might be full of optimistic crap.
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So Why Even Ask?
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Hmmm...could the agents have been busy investigating a different sinister gathering?
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I passed my mid-30s sometime over the last few weeks...
...I didn't really talk about it, well, because I guess I'm slightly paranoid about identity theft, and I don't want to make it easy on anyone.
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Happy Birthday, Nathan. :-)
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Deb on May 28, 2004 04:36 PM
I'm embarrased that I forgot. Happy Birthday, Nate!
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Dalin on May 28, 2004 05:04 PM
Happy birthday, guy!
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Sean Kinsell on May 28, 2004 08:53 PM
I had a problem with my slow computer and couldn't get the comments to open when I read this earlier, so I am sorry to be a bit late in the day...
Happy "Butt"day (as my girls used to unknowingly say when toddlers)!
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Rae on May 28, 2004 09:36 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
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Golgi on May 29, 2004 10:36 AM
Dang whippersnapper.
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McGehee on May 29, 2004 12:07 PM
I beg your pardon? I don't think I've ever whipped a snap, or snapped a whip, either, for that matter.
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Nathan on May 29, 2004 12:09 PM
Dang nuancin' whippersnapper!
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McGehee on May 30, 2004 12:45 PM
Happy belated birthday, Nathan! The thirties ain't so bad...anyway, I'm not too far behind you. :)
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"Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation."
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Ah, the patron saint of quality footwear...
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"I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith."
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...how come we never hear about Wesley Clark anymore?
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With any luck at all, someone stuffed a dirty gym sock in his piehole. Mwheh.
Hubby and I were just pondering that same question. You must have ESPN. :)
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Emma on May 28, 2004 12:10 AM
It just seems silly that the Great Hope of the Democrat Party could disappear so quickly from the scene as soon as he started falling behind in the nomination process...
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Nathan on May 28, 2004 06:43 AM
Who is Wesley Clark. Wasn't he that stupid boy on Start Trek or something...?
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"She seems to have such nicely rounded diphthongs!"
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"I thought a dipthong was the thing that Tarzan wore."
- Great Quote from Jeremy in his Foreign Language class.
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Nation Lucky Gore's Not President.
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The War In Iraq: Progress Report
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I really can't go into specifics, much. I hate jail time, yanno? So I'll just give you an overall impression instead, okay?
I'm surprised, disconcerted, upset, and disappointed in how the conflict has progressed since I left right at the beginning of the year. I left this place in pretty good shape, and when I come back, just look at the mess everyone made of it in my absence!
No, seriously, I really thought that capturing Saddam would be a turning point, and I even predicted that things would be largely calm by March at the latest. Obviously, I was absolutely wrong.
But I do try to point out: in matters of serious import, when you have an opponent actively trying to stymie your efforts, the best-laid plans do often go awry. Sometimes ours has.
And yet, it also hasn't.
Where is the nation-wide uprising of Iraqis who reject our presence? We've avoided that pretty well. Where's the reign of death and destruction in the United States to repay the indignation of having a leading Muslim leader deposed and/or humiliated? Absent, but not from their lack of trying. Where is the huge Shia-Sunni civil war? It's been more than a year, and there hasn't been one yet...not even close, actually. There's actually more of split among the Shias right now, with Muqtada al-Sadr leading a group of uneducated, pessimistic thugs only on the basis of a message of hate and anger...
See, I was frustrated we didn't squash Muqtada like a grape when he started causing problems. He took advantage of the negative press regarding Fallujah to create a ruckus that would increase opportunities for negative, anti-US press. We tried all sorts of methods to get him to back down, but he has stubbornly hung on. As recently as a week ago, it looked like he was expanding the fight against us, attracting followers, and gaining ground.
And then over the course of one weekend, our slow, patient, indirect methods started bearing fruit. Muqtada al-Sadr's star is waning, and waning fast....and we did it without having to destroy a mosque, bomb a village, and much of the population of Iraq blames Muqtada al-Sadr for the hardships/disruptions to their lives engendered by the conflict with al-Sadr.
Heck, Sistani (the leading Shia leader, one who insists on a proportional representative government to ensure Shias can dominate the political scene) even approved the nomination of a moderate Sunni to be the Interim President appointed to take over on 30 June until the first elections.
My point is that a more direct engagement with the insurgents might be cathartic and satisfying, but would result in little progress in the region. We need to:
1) Ensure a smooth transition to an Iraqi government that the Iraqis recognize and credible and legitimate
2) Train Iraqi police and military forces to provide security for themselves, with us only in an advisory role
3) Prevent any destabilization movement from gaining significant traction
We've made progress in each of those areas. While things are not as good as I had hoped they would be at this point, things are also far better than news media and left-leaning pundits have predicted before the war, immediately after the war, and even several times since then.
President Bush might not have the situation to the point you expect. Before you blame him for it, remember that things are far more stable and positive than our opponents hoped and work for.
It's a tug-of-war, and while we haven't dragged them into the mud yet, the ribbon on the rope is slowly moving in our direction.
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Update: I did my typical "only sleep 3.5 hours and can't get back to sleep" starting at around 3 pm PST. So I conceived of this post in that half-hour after it became obvious I wasn't going to fall back into slumber, came over to the Computer building and posted. Then I went wandering, and found about 15 blogs that posted about the same sort of idea.
Brain Fertilizer: "Behind the Power Curve, and There to Stay"
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This has been a part of my life for so long now, I can't believe I haven't really blogged about it before.
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I absolutely love this game.
I picked up the original Jagged Alliance game for $5 in a bargain bin. It was an interesting turn-based strategy game revolving around mercenaries you hire for missions. It was heavily scripted...but you could choose whatever characters you wanted to hire from a list of about 30. Each one had a personality, and that could actually affect how things went in the game. It was a blast...but one of my kids in my church youth group saw the box, asked me show him how it worked, and then would come over to play it before our meetings sometimes. I ended up giving him the game after I finished. I wish I had it back, now....
But I ran across Jagged Alliance 2 a few years later, again in the bargain bin. I immediately purchased it, and started playing. It was still turn-based, still strategy, still revolving around mercanaries you hire for a campaign of missions...but it was more open-ended, less scripted. They hired a butt-load of voice actors to do all the voices (because you still have about 30 mercs to choose from, plus all the characters you encounter in the game), and one of the fascinating extras about the game is trying to figure out which characters are possibly done by the same actors. Some actors seem to only do one, but most do at least 3-4.
The game has attracted a strong cult following. You can do some reading about it here and here.
This is virtually the only computer game I've played for the last two years, including all three major deployments (and three minor ones). I can't begin to guess how many hours I've spent playing the game, and I'd be embarassed to estimate. Probably something less than most people spend watching TV and movies, perhaps (which I rarely do, other than NFL football). It's captured my imagination, but it also really challenges the mind, because the strategy is quite complex.
I've never finished the game, although I've restarted at least 6 times. Each time I play it better. I have my best characters picked out, and I've really refined my tactics. When I first started playing, I would save before each move, and if I got whacked, I would reload. Then I tried "Iron Man" mode, in which you cannot save during combat, making it more dangerous...but if a battle ever went too disastrous, I could still reload from the last point before the battle, heh. This time I'm not using "Iron Man" mode, but still saving far less often, and if a bad result happens, I take it. Extreme disasters are still not accepted, though, but what can I say? I like the characters too much to let them die...
I know most of the phrases they use at the various points of the game, and can often quote them with a fairly accurate impression, even down to the accent.
But the most interesting part of all this? That game probably had the greatest impact on my finally deciding to purchase rifles. It's probably also why I'm more into military rifles than civilian hunting rifles.
I'd always wanted to get into guns. I supported the Second Amendment, after I thought about it a little.
One of the best guns in the game is the FN-FAL, mainly because of damage, range, and speed of use. The AK-74 is faster, but weaker on range and damage. The Steyr AUG has slightly better range, but weaker on damage and slower. The M-14 is only a hair better in damage, and significantly shorter range and as slow as the AUG.
So I had to buy an FN-FAL eventually, right?
Well, the more I learn about rifles, the more I realize the game designers were kinda full o' crap. The FN-FAL is a good, reliable rifle...but it doesn't have a longer range than the M-14, since the bullet is exactly the same. The only other way to say it has a better range is if the bullets can go equally as far, but the rifle itself is more accurate, so it is effective to a longer range...except that my research on the FAL says that its sights suck....so I doubt it can outdo an M-14 at all.
More soon...
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Hey, Nathan.
I, too, am a huge Jagged Alliance 2 fan. I've been playing the game almost since it came out. I love the voice acting also love the strategy. There's so many ways to accomplish the same thing, but usually there's only one or a few ways that are optimal.
As for the guns, the FN-FAL as my favorite in-game weapon, hands-down. It has great power, range, and speed. I usually deck it out with a rod&spring, laser, sniper scope, and either a barrel extender or bipod.
As for relating to the real-life FN-FAL, I have never fired one myself. However, I can say it may indeed be more accurate and/or have longer range and/or have more power than the M14 if the barrel length is longer and/or the barrel has a better rifling pattern. With a longer barrel, the bullet is able to pick-up more speed (energy) from the expansion of the power explosion. That's why sniper rifles all have really long barrels. Also, the rigidity of the barrel has a lot to do with it, too. Some guns, like the M16, are intentionally lightened, to give greater mobility. This sacrifices long-range accuracy, since the barrel actually is disorted (bent slightly) when firing. This is why sniper rifles also have very thick (and heavy) barrels.
So, it may be that the in-game FN-FAL has a longer and/or heavier barrel than the in-game M-14 does. The in-game FN-FAL is a heavy weapon for sure. Ira, for instance, has a difficult time carrying that gun with all her other stuff. I usually give her a lighter-weight and ammo 5.56mm gun, like the Steyr AUG.
Also, the deficiency of the sights can be corrected with a scope.
Anyways, I'm glad you enjoy JA2. It is indeed a great game.
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Maybe...but not enough to post gratuitous references to the name of the girl below.
But I gotta say: she's not unattractive in appearance.
It's unfortunate the same probably cannot be said of her character. Ah, well, there are probably even less savory people out there in the blogosphere, too...
The more I learn, the more I regret putting the pictures up. So they're gone. In their place, plese find the complete text of an excellent Michelle Malking piece regarding this issue. (Jo, she doesn't write "like a man" in this one...)
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Meet the new Monica Lewinsky. Jessica Cutler, a 24-year-old mailroom clerk and phone receptionist, worked for Sen. Mike DeWine, R-Ohio, until last Friday -- when he fired her for using Senate computers to post to an Internet Web log that chronicled her trysts with six different men in Washington. Cutler's partners reportedly included government officials who gave her money for her sexual services.
Diary excerpt: "I just took a long lunch with F and made a quick $400. When I returned to the office, I heard that my boss was asking about my whereabouts. Loser." In another entry, Cutler explains: "F(equals)Married man who pays me for sex. Chief of Staff at one of the gov agencies, appointed by Bush."
Cutler, who aspired to be a journalist, spouted: "I'm sure I am not the only one who makes money on the side this way: How can anybody live on $25K/year??" When I was 24 and making less than that, I did it by eating Spaghetti-O's, Ramen noodles and Swanson pot pies for dinner; driving a Toyota Tercel with no air conditioning; and sleeping on a $30 futon. I did it the way most parents teach their daughters to succeed: through hard work, thrift, faith and perseverance.
I don't usually write about such inside-the-Beltway gossip, but Cutler's indecent conduct, glib rationalizations and in-your-face shamelessness, and the accompanying feeding frenzy over her, deserve a firm outside-the-Beltway lashing. This vulgar little episode reflects a larger, disturbing media trend toward normalizing and glamorizing sexual promiscuity among young working women. It harms those trying to succeed on their merits in the professional arena.
And it also harms our own daughters, who will be forced to fight harder to protect their dignity and credibility in a "Girls Gone Wild" culture.
The Pulitzer Prize-winning Washington Post featured Cutler, who dubbed herself and her online diary "Washingtonienne," in a prominent story last Sunday headlined "The Hill's Sex Diarist Reveals All (Well, Some)." Cutler posed for a fetching photo and supplied juicy soundbites. "It's so cliched. It's like, 'There's a slutty girl on the Hill?' There's millions of 'em," Cutler told the Washington Post's Richard Leiby. Millions? Follow-up dispatches appeared in Roll Call, the New York Post, the London Independent, United Press International and the Associated Press, whose wire reports on Cutler were reprinted everywhere from the Akron Beacon Journal to the Houston Chronicle to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
The news media originally caught whiff of Cutler from an online D.C.-based gossip site, Wonkette.com, authored by "edgy" (read: profanity-laced and sex-obsessed) writer Ana Marie Cox, who herself has been recently touted extensively by adoring media fans. CNN terrorism analyst Peter Bergen hosted a tony party for Cox last month; Washington Post reporter Howard Kurtz invited her on his CNN show, where she boasted, "I'm the expert at talking dirty."
Cutler and Cox, 31, appeared together on Fox News Channel this week, where they giggled and guffawed and rolled their eyes as they reveled in their sleazy celebrity. When Fox anchor Brigitte Quinn (who deserves a medal for her restraint) asked Cutler whether her parents knew about her raunchy sex life, she snorted: "They do now!" Cox cackled and went on to coo about Cutler's writing talent and future book publishing prospects. Cox generously mentioned she didn't want too much "credit" for Cutler's newfound notoriety. ("Credit?" Quinn mused subtly. "That's an interesting word.")
This female Beavis and Butthead duo illustrate what normal Americans hate about the Capitol scene: narcissism, moral bankruptcy and self-congratulatory media-political incest. The Washington Post's legitimization of this shallow "story" illustrates something else: the mainstream media's perverted moral values. The paper's recent profiles and features of social conservatives drip with condescension and ridicule. Religious activists are portrayed as intolerant homophobes; Republicans as gun-toting rubes; abstinence promoters as freaks.
But give The Washington Post two vain, young, trash-mouthed skanks who couldn't care less about what their parents think of their sex-drenched infamy, and the newspaper can't wait to help make them full-fledged members of the media elite.
Cutler and Cox apparently have no trouble looking at themselves in the mirror every morning. I pity the mainstream journalists-turned-pimps who can do the same.
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OT, Nathan, but where am I on the map of Blogistan?
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Rae on May 26, 2004 02:13 AM
Just south of Idaho, I think.
...dang, I was actually considering deleting this post, too.
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Nathan on May 26, 2004 02:15 AM
Oh, just delete it. I rather like the new one with the map anyway :)
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This one via Rae.
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You would be very proud of the Marines as they have been able to switch gears from intense offensive operations back to what we call "stability operations." Stability operations simply translates to getting out into the countryside and teaching Iraqi Police and soldiers how to do their jobs. More importantly, our priority is just making contact with them and trying to instill a sense of confidence and pride in what they are doing. As I have shared with you over the past 15 months or so, it is hard to imagine trying to establish a police force or "national guard" (the equivalent of what we are working with) out of a population that has never even seen such entities as we understand them. If you said National Guard in Missouri, most people would think "the guys who show up when there is a flood, blizzard or tornado to help people." Or maybe after 9/11, that guy at the drug store who left for Iraq for a year as part of an engineer unit.
Here, they simply have no paradigm of what such a force is.
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The enemy is confused right now. He goes to bed convinced he is going to win because he watches the Al Jazeera and then the US media and believes that we are a weak willed people who can be terrorized and who have a penchant for self-loathing. Then, he wakes up and he comes across a coalition check point and he sees a young Soldier or Marine who stands there like a rock and exudes strength and conviction. The same terrorist who was in the mosque the night before in a frenzy is now subjugated by the presence of a guy who does not match up with what he has been told and sees on TV. It must be confusing as all get out. Every day, he will continue to see in three dimensions the best that our society has to offer and their is no amount of sound bites that will trump that in the end.
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This one via Tony Woodlief.
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So, the Iraqis here say that now that the Sunni's are in Abu Ghraib, they tell me it's "God's judgment." And how do the Kurds feel about it? Yawns all around. It is only the liberal American media who will just not let this thing go. I still tell folks, however, that this scandal doesn't represent what is great about America. But they follow up by saying, "What about justice for those who did this to us under Saddam? There is no justice for them!"
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So what's wrong with our nation?
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Lotsa stuff. The only problem is, ask 10 different people, and you'd get 10 different answers.
Some people want us to be more Green. Some people want us to be more libertarian. Some people want anarchy. Some people want us to return to traditional values. Some people want every-increasing freedom, more programs, higher taxes. You name it, there's probably someone who supports it.
So who is right? Tough question. Aside from the obvious answer: "Me." heh.
You see, I feel there is an underlying series of problems bringing about all this chaos and polarization and dispute and invective. In fact, I think there are three main problems.
1) The series of checks and balances is breaking down.
2) There is little incentive for anyone in government to be concerned with our nation's long-term welfare...doing so gets you defeated.
3) Not enough people vote.
Our forefathers came up with a dang good system. It is flexible, balances out most powers, and has helped us avoid many problems encountered by other nations, all while slowly allowing increasingly more inclusive groups of people unprecented levels of freedom, prosperity, and equality. That's pretty amazing.
But I really fear the system may be breaking down, as different special interests exploit cracks in the system in pursuit of their agenda.
My proposed solutions?
1) Repeal the 17th Amendment, which would give more power to state legislatures and get people more interested in that level of politics.
1a) Further, I propose we add another house to the Supreme Court, say 5 people who are elected for life. Any Supreme Court decision would have to hammer out a compromise between these two groups, just like the Senate and House of Representatives have to hammer out compromises, thus balancing population with states. The appointment system was supposed to get politics out of the Supreme Court...can anyone look at Bader-Ginsburg and/or Scalia and insist politics doesn't affect things? Or how about the Democrats' push in 2000 to throw out the Constitutionally-mandated separation of powers on the justification that if President Bush wins the election that he would pack the Court with pro-life judges? Or how about the whole Senate confirmation fiasco since then when a minority party prevents the Senate from even voting on the justification that they don't want a pro-life judge or conservative Hispanic on a Circuit Court? I admit, how we balance the court is less important to me than finding some way to balance it. Right now, the checks/balances system toward the Federal Court system isn't responsive enough to the people.
2) Extend the Presidential term of office to 10 years, and allow two terms.
2a) If it seems advisable and doesn't seem counterproductive, allow a "no confidence vote" once every two years; if the President doesn't survive it, a new election must be held within six months with pre-selected candidates, rather than automatically being handed to the opposition party.
3) Index the salary for members of Congress to the number of people on welfare: less people on welfare, higher salary; more people, lower salary. That should diminish the practice of buying votes with government entitlements.
4) All government programs (except medicare, defense, and social security) must sunset after five years (or other set term). They can be reinstated, but only by a majority vote by both houses of Congress.
5) Everyone who votes gets 5% off the following year's taxes. That should also help determine when dead people's names are used to stuff ballot boxes.
5a) after a person votes, they can take a test regarding candidates, issues, and propositions. If they pass, they can take an additional 5% off the following year's taxes (to encourage people to study the issues)
6) All members of Congress must wear a patch on their clothes to show from which lobbies they have accepted gifts, money, or dinner. Thus, it will be possible to tell at a glance who is accepting the most influence.
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Just one of the meme's floating around the blogosphere...
You can see the list here.
So the bloggers print the list and highlight the ones they've read. My list? Glad you asked:
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I don't really care.
I've read some, haven't read others. I can't say that the ones I've read changed me in any way. It didn't give me a greater appreciation for literature, or give me any insight into human nature that I didn't see anywhere else.
I don't really mind having to read the books I did, but I don't really worry about the so-called "great" books I didn't read. I hardly think those would hold the key to eternal peace and happiness in my life.
I think that on our time we should read what we want. In school, however, some books are excellent ways to teach certain things. Exposure in school to "great" literature is a good way of ensuring we all have some common cultural reference points. But I don't think that someone who has read every single "classis" will be any more intelligent or prepared for life than someone who only read a third of them; but I do think that reading what interests you and challenges you is a good thing. There are enough other good thinkers and writers out there that as long as you are reading regularly, you will encounter all the literature you need to during your lifetime.
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Stumpjumper tries to seize the moral high ground on Same-Sex Marriage here.
Here's his argument:
Gay marriage has been an important topic for me for several years. I have talked it to death both in realtime and here on the blog. Last night, while discussing it with a gay friend, I realized that the entire debate can be reduced to one word. It is in this one, little, four-letter word that the opponents of same-sex marriage will find themselves on the losing side of history. Proponents and supporters of gay marriage use this word every time that they discuss the issue. They consider it to be a cornerstone of the debate. They feel that the debate cannot exist without it. More importantly, it is the reason why this is a civil rights issue. It is the reason why homosexuals do not have the same rights as heterosexuals. The truth of this lies in the fact that opponents of gay marriage avoid the word. They explain their position and espouse their message of doom-and-gloom while specifically refusing to utter it. They talk around it, they neglect it, and they often deny its obvious relevance and importance to the debate. The word, quite simply, is love.
Normally I'd just leave a comment. But since my response is rather inflammatory, it's probably best if I post it on my site rather than venting my irritation on their blog.
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I disagree.
SJ's point might be more valid if:
1) Love were definitive: too many people cannot tell the difference between "loving someone" (putting the needs of the other person ahead of your own) and being "in love" (thinking the other person is great and wanting to have sex with them and be with them all the time)
2) People who love each other automatically got married (thousands of co-habitating couples demonstrate that fallacy)
3) Love was permanent (Check the divorce statistics)
There is absolutely nothing about "love" being denied to homosexuals. They can already commit to each other forever. They can already have a ceremony expressing their union. They can already arrange legal responsibilities for visitation, inheritance, etc. The few remaining legal problems are improving all the time, and marriage rights to try to clear up the last few difficulties (when they even still exist) is like using tactical nuclear weapons on your house to eliminate a rodent problem.
Marriage is not about love.
It's about Responsibility. Duty. Commitment. Partnership. Giving when you don't want to give anymore. Love is only a factor because when you actually love someone (not just "in love", but actually committed to wanting the best for your partner), it makes it easier to keep giving when you are at your lowest and convinced you are never going to get half of it back.
Yeah, many heterosexual couples don't recognize that. That's why we have a high divorce rate. But the ones who do are the ones who have successful, lasting marriages.
I see no acknowledgement of that reality coming from the pro-SSM lobby. Instead, I see the portion of the movement exemplified by SJ's argument trying to insist that Hollywood's view of love and marriage is the real one: Two hot people want to have sex, so the aggressive one makes a great speech about love and they live happily ever after, and get married mainly for the tax breaks.
Using SJ's argument, opposition to racial integration was about a "love": white folks loved their children too much to let them be corrupted by black folks.
Or another example: Hitler loved Germany so much he didn't want to see it ruined by Jews.
Or another example: Osama bin Ladin loves his culture and religion too much to see it destroyed by the Great Satan of western infidels.
"Love" is too general. The protion of the homosexual marriage lobby exemplified by SJ's argument is proclaiming love while spewing anger and rage, proclaiming love while demonstrating selfishness and childishness.
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I'm at the point where I didn't comment because I absolutely don't want to deal with this topic any more, but I have to admit that the first thing that came to my mind was: what the heck does love have to do with setting public policy?
posted by
Deb on May 25, 2004 11:39 AM
What is love? Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me no more.
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Nathan on May 25, 2004 11:40 AM
So well said, Nathan. I attempted to point a few things out concerning absolute truth and what's this whole "I am an American before I am a (insert religous afiliation here)"? Very strange logic. I can't help but think that those who aren't married under the "I am committed to God first and because I am, I will keep my committment to you whether I 'feel' like I love you or not" don't truly comprehend it. I think that lesson is learned after a few years (and waaaay past the honeymoon) and a few fights with your spouse. Love is a committment, not a feeling and certainly doesn't dictate policy in other arena, why this one?
posted by
Rae on May 25, 2004 01:11 PM
Sadly, legal "arrangements", though drawn up by attorneys and apparently concrete, are still thrown out the window when push comes to shove. On one blog, I read of a struggle of a partner dying, the family of the deceased appealing to a judge, judge allowing family (who had not spoken to the deceased in many years) to STAY IN DECEASED'S HOME THAT WAS SHARED WITH PARTNER, at which time partner was forced to leave because deceased's family felt "threatened", and then deceased's family proceeded to empty contents of the house.
It's easy to say "love has no bearing on public policy" when your opportunity to marry is not up for debate.
posted by
Jo on May 25, 2004 01:52 PM
And I've seen the same thing happen when someone contests a will even in heterosexual relationships.
A good will will overcome all such problems.
I don't know. The argument seems to be that homosexuals have the market cornered on tragedy and pain.
I don't believe that for a second.
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nathan on May 25, 2004 02:04 PM
That's all very nice, Nathan, but the idea that all gay marriage proponents spontaneously haul out the Sleepless in Seattle view of love as their ultimate argument is ridiculous. If anything, love has been used as a tar baby to keep gays constantly re-justifying our relationships: a decade ago, people said that we had sex all the time but didn't know how to fall in love. Then it was, "Well, okay, maybe you experience romance, but you don't actually know how to devote yourselves to each other." Then it was, "Uh, okay, fine, a lot of you do form lasting partnerships in which you sacrifice your own profit to take care of each other, but you don't have children to stay together for, see?" This isn't to say that the arguments (or at least some of them) against extending marriage aren't legitimate, and heaven knows you won't see me denying that a lot of gay activists are shallow, one-note hacks. Nevertheless, it often is the case that people on my team have had to argue their position in response to the ways people have challenged it--meaning that if they use love as a criterion, it may not be because they define marriage in those terms themselves.
posted by
Sean Kinsell on May 25, 2004 02:48 PM
No, Jo, it isn't easy. But that doesn't change the fact that the government is under no obligation to give me what I think will make me happy, and that trying to make everybody happy is no way to run a country. It's a specious argument designed to make people who think it isn't good policy feel guilty.
posted by
Deb on May 25, 2004 02:54 PM
Sean,
I admit I can be as guilty of overreaction as anyone else. Perhaps this post was just such an overreaction.
But it wasn't a post to slam SSM-advocates written out of whole cloth on its own merits, it was in reaction to a specific post that tried to seize the moral high ground by arguing that this is only about love, so if you oppose homosexual marriage you must oppose "love".
I don't accept that premise. I don't accept it because marriage is not about love, it is about responsibility and commitment and duty. I don't accept it because it is a childish and selfish argument. I don't accept it because it is a Hollywood vision of marriage.
There are other merits to argue for homosexual marriage. This doesn't even begin to approach one of them.
Unfortunately, you rarely see any of the other merits. When you do, if you point out any flaw or raise any question, you are immediately labeled a homophobe. The states' rights argument so vilified in the Lawrence vs. Texas case is now the hero for Massachussetts...and once it is in place there, suddenly states' rights will become passe again when the 14th Amendment is used to impose SSM on all states. Clerks are openly defying orders from Governers to break the law and record marriages. Mayors are defying governers and Congress. State Supreme Courts are writing legislature. And when anyone mentions introducing an amendment to the Constitution in a Constitutionally-prescribed manner, they are accused of trying to rip up the Constitution.
These are all childish, immature, damaging methods to go about obtaining the responsibility of marriage.
Heck, look at the idea of the Constitutional Amendment again: 3/4 of the states would have to ratify it by popularly elected representatives! What could be more democratic than that? A court only needs a simple majority, and a 2/3 majority is considered beyond veto...yet we would need 3/4 of the nation to support an amendment banning gay marriage.
Since I've heard SSM-advocates say that approximately 50% of the nation supports SSM marriage rights, what are they afraid of? Why resort to such blatantly extra-legal methods?
And SJ tells me the answer is "love"?
No. That doesn't pass the smell test.
I've said it before, and I'll repeat it again for clarity, and for the record:
I don't oppose SSM on its merits, in fact I was originally neutral. I oppose SSM on the character and methods of the bulk of its proponents.
posted by
Nathan on May 25, 2004 03:22 PM
But you know what? I reread the post yet again, and maybe you're right: in the last three paragraphs I went beyond merely responding to SJ and into tarring the whole movement with the same brush.
I admit that's more than a trifle inaccurate. So modify the last few paragraphs from "the SSM movement" to say: "the portion of the movement exemplified by SJ's argument". In fact, I'll make that change
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nathan on May 25, 2004 03:27 PM
Perhaps, Deb, but the government IS under the obligation to treat all people the same under the law. And yet....we still think anything involving the "G" word just doesn't apply. I hope I am still alive the day we stop treating homosexuals like second class citizens.
posted by
Jo on May 25, 2004 03:29 PM
Jo, I'm sorry to hear you haven't stopped yet. [evil grin]
posted by
Nathan on May 25, 2004 03:35 PM
Nathan, you're bad. :)
Jo, I hear you. This particular way of approaching the issue is just one that drives me a little nuttier than I already am.
posted by
Deb on May 25, 2004 03:42 PM
But in all seriousness, you assume homosexuals are being treated like second-class citizens. That's hardly beyond debate.
I find it ironic that you can even utter such words as the government IS under the obligation to treat all people the same under the law., considering the Democrat platform regarding such things as abortion rights (men don't have a choice, women do), taxation (rich people should pay more), affirmative action (discrimination for a limited time is okay).
In fact, your argument is absolutely incorrect. The government is supposed to not discriminate on the basis of race, color, gender, religion, etc. Note: the government freely and happily discriminates on the basis of age with voting and statutory rape laws. Your statement sounds nice, but...
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Nathan on May 25, 2004 03:42 PM
I say "we" because I like to remind myself that I am not some innocent bystander in society, I am a member like the rest of y'all.
I feel that in not allowing SSM, the government IS discriminating on the base of sexual orientation. That's all.
posted by
Jo on May 25, 2004 03:46 PM
I have far less problem with you saying that you feel it is treating them like second-class citizens than the automatic assumption that it is.
In the first phrasing, we can discuss what, exactly, is going on. In the second phrasing, since I don't agree, you demonize me before I even say a thing.
It just strikes me this way: if you want to discuss, then you have to leave some opening for your opponent's view. Just now I didn't leave any, Sean called me on it, and I acknowledged and partially retracted.
I don't know. I'm probably just grumpy, but the whole argument just seems to be endless variations of "have you stopped beating your wife yet?", i.e., people are arguing off the basis of assumptions that simply aren't shared, so everyone just gets pissed off way too easy. Me included.
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Nathan on May 25, 2004 04:01 PM
Nathan, did you read my comment over there? When I then later asked SJ to try to answer some of the questions I pose (because I really haven't ever had any of them sufficently addressed by the pro-abortion movement) he says that he wouldn't answer them because it doesn't fit the title of the subject-"Being Pro-abortion and A Good Catholic." I see from your comments above, that you and I have very similar beliefs.
Let me just say that weeks after the Supreme Court found in favor of Lawrence (Lawrence vs. texas) that a man and a woman presented themselves to obtain a marriage license in Salt Lake City. The were denied one thougha s th eman was legally married to another woman. They sued using the Supreme Courts decision as basis for the legality of their own suit. The polygynists (that's what they really are: one man and many wives) here are watching very closely because they very much believe that if the U.S. allows homosexual marriage, then it will have to allow polygynous marriages, as well. I hear it everyday that the government has no right to govern people's decisions on who or how many to marry (at one time). What say the SSM supporters to that?
N*A*M*B*L*A is also watching very carefully because they believe it a pathway into freeing of their rights to enjoy themselves and to pursue their form of "happiness." Most states only outlaw or punish non-consensual relationships, but they also cap the ages at 16- much to the delight and hope of the above mentioned organization.
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posted by
Rae on May 25, 2004 04:58 PM
"What say the SSM supporters to that?"
I don't know whether I qualify as an SSM supporter, Rae, but I do know that even allowing civil unions in Vermont was supposedly going to open the floodgates for everyone and his grandmother to claim entitlements based on all kinds of improbably-contorted relationships with multiple partners, and it didn't happen, though people may have tried.
Also, unless I'm wrong, most states that do allow marriage to those who haven't attained their majority require permission from parents if you're below 18 or so. The only exception, I think, is if one of the couple is pregnant, in which case, parental permission isn't needed above a certain age that's lower than 18. Forgive me for pointing out that, while I'm no fan of NAMBLA, that's one complication, at least, that's unlikely to arise in a union pursued by two of its members.
posted by
Sean Kinsell on May 25, 2004 10:37 PM
Incredibly, and I only know this because I live in Utah, my 13 year old can be married with my consent and can choose to be married on her own volition at 16.
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I dunno. It seems I've hit it awfully early this deployment. I've hardly been gone two weeks.
What I mean is the wall of loneliness/isolation. I have two co-workers here, but they work the other two shifts. I interact with the air crews, but only to give them briefings.
At home, I have co-workers to joke with, kids to play with, a wife to talk to in bed at night.
Here? A laptop computer, a guitar, and this blog.
[sigh]
I'll be okay, but I can't wait to get home. Only about 6 weeks to go...
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Whyn't you come around and annoy your blog friends with puns like you used to do?
posted by
McGehee on May 24, 2004 06:52 PM
I won't ask for puns (I already have a father for that, thank you very much), but I will say the color scheme is much improved. Maybe you could use the downtime to re-memorize obscure kanji? I know they fall out of my brain with alarming frequency, and Japanese only uses about 2000 in daily life and another few hundred for most works of literature.
posted by
Sean Kinsell on May 25, 2004 05:04 AM
hang in there...guitar does help, right? We'll expect a catalogue by the time you get back. :)
posted by
Jo on May 25, 2004 07:03 AM
Keep your chin up; this too shall pass. If you feel like it, and have an opportunity to do so, drop me a line. We can talk books. I've found a few I think you'd enjoy.
Stay safe.
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Here's how it's all going to come down in the end. There'll be some sort of "October Racial Surprise," something like the Trent Lott remark perhaps, and so the turnout campaign in African-American neighborhoods, well greased with campaign cash and supported by ads in African-American newspapers (the grateful publishers of which are most assuredly in a position to do many favors for their Representatives in Congress), will be able to scream and yell about what awful racists the Republicans are, and convince apathetic base voters to go to the polls after all.
We'll have to see if it comes true. If it does, how will it affect your political views?
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Looks like the tin-foil hate is on somebody else's head today.
Of course, if any race-related issues come up between now and then, neocon conspiracy theorists can sound a triumphant "AHH-HAH! We knew it!"
I am reminded of Oscar Wilde's quote (not verbatim) "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." Politics on the whole are in the gutter today...though somebody point out just *who* is looking at the stars....it ain't pundits.
posted by
Jo on May 24, 2004 02:33 PM
You don't think the Democrats use race as an issue...ever? You don't think they sometimes take the minority vote for granted? The President of the NAACP even said that a few months ago...
posted by
Nathan on May 24, 2004 03:40 PM
Yes, I think they take the minority vote for granted..look how Muslims and Hispanics turned out in full force to vote for Bush....it killed Gore.
But this is raving looney conspiracy theory crap. Please tell me y'all got somethin' better than that.
posted by
Jo on May 25, 2004 07:05 AM
We have it all: Good stuff and crap. The Republican Party is a big tent.
posted by
Nathan on May 25, 2004 07:06 AM
Another point: "tinfoil hat brigade" is meant to imply accusations that have no basis in reality, not cynicism. For instance, it is a "tinfoil hat" to say that Bush had Saddam the whole time and only produced him to get a jump in the polls, and would do the same thing with Osama bin Laden.
Why? Because Bush wasn't doing especially bad when they announced we caught Saddam, and if he was going produce bin Laden at a time to help his support, that would be now. Furthermore, you don't announce something as big as catching Saddam on a weekend (Saturday night, wasn't it?) if you want a PR boost.
Now, if Osama bin Laden is produced two weeks before the election without any major operation underway to catch him, I would have to re-evaluate those tin-foil hats.
However, I've seen firsthand how a statement by a Republican is interpreted as racism because it was uttered by a Republican, but when similar statements are made by leading Democrats, it's totally okay. Do you think Bill Frist would still have his job if he'd made the comment Hillary Clinton had made about Ghandi and gas stations?
Thus, if two weeks before the election, a relatively minor statement by some Republican as being proof that Republicans are racist and the black race must get out and vote to get Bush out of the White House at any cost...well, then, this prediction takes on a little credibility.
Proof? Hardly. But predictions that come true are cynicism, not the stuff of "tinfoil hat brigades".
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Have you noticed I haven't triumphantly proclaimed a word-completion total for my novel lately? There's a good reason for that.
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At first, the problem was just that traveling over here and adjusting to the different sleep schedule was giving me problems.
...and it's possible that this is just an inertia problem. The more I write, the easier it is to write...but if I let it go for a week, then the inertia of not-writing becomes huge.
But the problem is different this time. It's not writer's block, because I've never had a problem with that. The solution is simple: you write. You put something on the page, even if it is just free-association stream-of-consciousness stuff you delete later. (none of that has ever been included in my word-count total)
Every novel I've attempted has foundered on the shoals of realization that the novel I'm writing sucks. It's not a realization, it's a process. I guess I needed to start enough novels to see that the same thing always happens: I start with a good idea, I have a fair idea of what I want to do, I start writing...and somewhere along the line, I lose the voice of the character, or the plot starts to seem contrived, or I realize it just won't work.
This time it took 12,000 words to paint myself into that corner. Each time it takes longer. Each time the novel starts out better and rolls along longer before coming apart at the seams.
I'll hold onto it. I think the last 2-3 attempts may be fixable when I get more experience.
Part of the problem is that I want to write a Great Novel, with Grand Themes and an Important Message to Impart. At some point, that aspect tends to trip me up. I lose the voice of the character because Nathan the Writer keeps trying to say something, and then the next problem shows up: Impatience. Nathan the Writer gets tired of waiting for the character to do his job, and so starts ham-handedly pounding the keys that jerk the marionette's string.
I think if I try to keep pounding away at this novel, I'll just irritate myself.
It may be time to recognize I cannot write a novel. I can't tell a story, and I'm none too good at even a narrative joke or anecdote. Maybe I do not have the demeanor of a storyteller. Lord knows, there are enough people out there who would love to see you fail, I might as well please 'em, right?
Nope. It's a goal of mine to finish a novel. It's a process, and I'm learning and improving. You don't learn to run a marathon by running 26.2 miles your first time out. You build up to it.
I'm going to spend a week thinking about exactly what I want to write. Maybe the Neo-Western that's been bouncing around in my mind. Maybe an Anti-Terrorism-themed novel. I love the idea of a Muslim hero who fights against the Islamist meme that's taking over many of his friends and relations. I like the idea of bringing my knowledge of China and the Chinese language to people. Heck, I've even considered just retelling an old Chinese story in a new setting. It worked for West Side Story, no?
I will write. I will be a novelist. I'll get paid at some point, even if I just ask a friend to pay me $5 to cover the cost of printing it out once. Technically a paid, published author... [grin]
It may take a year. It may take ten. I probably won't meet my deadline of July 4th.
But it will happen.
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*curious*
Are you a guy who thinks out the plot arcs all in advance? Or are you the type of guy who writes as he goes, thinking about plot elements as soon as you create them? (I know there are other elements to writing, but this is where I find myself when I do creative writing.)
I'm a guy who likes to read and write causes and effects. (Element A occurs early, a bunch of stuff happens, but in the end, Resolution B is an obvious end result of Element A, but its never obvious when its introduced. That is why you have all that other stuff happening, to flesh it out.)
But depending on my mood, I've found myself writing to the moment, or writing to the grand theme. My breakdown point is when I'm no longer interested in the theme I'm developing, or the character I'm developing, and while I have other ideas I want to hash out, I don't want to leave whatever thread I've left hanging. I'm too anal when it comes to getting resolution, or a place to break away from a scene and work on what I want to extrapolate next. So my ideas stay on the back burner for what seems forever.
Do you find yourself in such a knot?
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Jeremy on May 23, 2004 08:29 PM
I've tried just starting a story and seeing where it leads me, and I've tried to map out a very broad, general plot, letting specific plot devices develop as I write.
I'm very much a performer, in that I cannot really know how things are going to work out until I'm actually typing it and seeing it on the page. In some ways, I've approached writing as a reader: what would I enjoy reading? It was the combination of those two methods that I used on this last attempt that netted 12,000 words.
And I think I have another idea ready to go. I'll start working on it tonight.
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Nathan on May 24, 2004 07:13 AM
Nathan,
I'm glad you're not giving up on writing. I've often found that as I write consistently my level of creativity rises. That has always been a problem in that it distracts me or makes me want to finish all the sooner. the latter then affects, plot, voice, character, narrative, etc. what I started doing was allowing those sidetracks to exist within limits. In other words I was draw sketches and do summaries like you did but always placed time limits on it. then I'd take a break and think about what parts various parts of my story line I'd like to write some more on. In other words I didn't write linearly or chronologically, for me it's something I can't do until I'm done with the 1st draft of hodge podge. It was only later, while sitting with my writing group that I was able to iron out problems, false character flaws, contrived writing, etc.
I really hope you don't give up writing as I like your blog voice. And I'd definitely pay $2 to read the reworking of a chinese tale. I'd rather welcome reading how another fellow westerner views China.
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Roses are red blue. WTF?
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Your text, it no show up unless it's a link...
posted by
Deb on May 23, 2004 09:14 AM
We had a network outage in the middle of my fiddling...no chance to fix it until now.
posted by
Nathan on May 23, 2004 12:22 PM
I hate it when that happens! :)
Looks pretty good overall, btw...
posted by
Deb on May 23, 2004 02:00 PM
I wish I could figure out how to make the whole page be the light gray. I tend to dislike stark white... ...but I can't find the line that does it, nothing I fiddle with will change the total page background shade.
Any advice?
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The new blogmap's here! The new blogmap's here! This is the kind of spontaneous publicity I need. My name in print. That really makes me somebody. Things are going to start happening to me now.
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You dude, your link list is overlapping your text. Congrads on the map.
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Sorry, I meant yo dude.
posted by
Jane on May 22, 2004 07:23 PM
I wonder if the coalition has inspected the plant to make sure they're not making or storing WMD's?
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McGehee on May 22, 2004 07:31 PM
Nah...I just had chili for lunch.
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May 20, 2004
Yes
That's why I support him fully.
Via Kevin at his new digs. I like 'em, dude.
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Yeup. That man is my President too.
As Peggy Noonan says, he's an average guy, who's looking out for all of us.
Not some intellectual, intellectuals just talk.
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That seems to be a common refrain as I trip lightly through the blogosphere.
"I like President Bush, but..."
...but I don't like some of his spending proposals.
...but I don't like his stance on SSM marriage.
...but I don't like his restraint in Iraq.
...but whatever.
See, I don't feel that way. At this point, I haven't seen a single decision he's made that I didn't like. About the only differences I've had with him are based on information that has come to light long after the fact, i.e., I really wish he'd chosen someone with more integrity and leadership ability than Colin Powell for Secretary of State.
I look at the Justice Department, and despite some pointless whining from people who are reacting to the idea of John Ashcroft as A.G., I see a department in far better shape and far more effective than under Janet Reno. He's made some blunders and mistakes, but no major ones, and no one's perfect.
I didn't really like Bush saying he'd sign an extension to the Assault Weapons Ban if it were put in front of him, but I can't say that really bothers me that much. First, I figure the extension has less than a 10% chance of making it to him. Second, I've still been able to buy any gun I've wanted; the only appreciable difference the assault weapon ban makes is the price of high-cap magazines. Not worth getting my panties in a wad.
I would really prefer that Bush would replace Paul Bremer, personally. Paul was an improvement, but certain trends have become problematic, as can happen when someone is in place too long. Put someone in with a fresh perspective who can correct some of the things that have gone off the wire, I say. But then, I don't think that rises to the level of a "criticism", because I recognize that President Bush is at the top of perhaps the most extensive and richest information flow in the world, something I am a part of and yet not fully privy to. I'm willing to express my opinion but not to the point of asserting I know more on any issue of national security than he does. I'm willing to be patient and see how it turns out.
Bluntly: there is not another person in the world who could get my vote for President this November. Sure, maybe he wasn't the perfect man for the circumstances in which we find ourselves...but it would be impossible to determine who that mythical "perfect" person might be. In my opinion, President Bush has done an excellent job of approximating the ideal President. I approve of and support everything he has done and said, wholeheartedly.
If that qualifies me as an idiot, so be it.
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Ace has the scoop on liberal writer who almost goes off message regarding WMD.
Scan copious amounts of writing.
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What the hell...
Ignore the premise, and pay attention to the insight.
To accept her argument as valid, you have to restrict SSM-advocates to only one aspect of their argument. I don't. However, I do think she does understand what forms the basis of a successful marriage:
Viewing love as mutual affection has created the unrealistic expectation that we can judge the strength of our unions by our feelings. Many straight people hold this view. We stay married as long as we like the way we feel with the other person. But basing marriage upon mere feelings is a recipe for divorce — because feelings are fickle.
The alternative is to view love as a decision. To love is to will and to do the good of the other. This understanding of love sustains us, to the benefit of the whole family, children and parents alike.
Oh, yah: the link
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Kris Kristofferson's Notebook (Excerpt)
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"floppy brim" is just another word for "Easy for the wind to blow off your head"
"Democrat Politician" is just another word for "Out of touch with reality"
"French" is just another word for "Cheese-eating Surrender Monkey"
"Brain Fertilizer" is just another word for "Sexy as the day is long"
"Freedom" is just another word for "Nothing left to lose"
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I have been told my whole life I am related to Kris Kristofferson. I would like to talk with him, via e-mail. I am looking for a way to get a message to him! HELP!!
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Top Ten Annoying Commercial Slogans
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10. "Where's the Beef?"
9. "Calgon, take me away!"
8. "Gentlemen prefer Hanes."
7. "All Tempa-Cheer!"
6. "Finger lickin' good!"
5. "Continental Airlines--we really move our tail for you!"
4. "Flick of my Bick"
3. "Her Windsong stays on my mind."
2. "A totally organic experience."
1. "Ancient Chinese Secret, huh?"
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Thanks for bringing back my childhood.
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Rae on May 21, 2004 07:48 AM
"Mama Mia, That's a spicy meatball."
"A silly millimeter longer, 101."
"Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, on a sesame seed bun."
"Have it your way."
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Mamamontezz on May 21, 2004 02:46 PM
I confess: I like the 'Ancient Chinese Secret' one.
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maura on May 21, 2004 06:35 PM
"Someday you'll smoke a cigarette that does what this one does. Why not now?"
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triticale on May 21, 2004 09:02 PM
"Big Mac, fliet o' fish, quarter pounder, french fry. Icy Coke, thick shake, sundae and apple pie."
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Cortez on June 11, 2004 09:32 AM
Hi! I'm trying to recall the product that used the slogan, "Try it, you'll like it." Can you help me? Also, about when was the commercial run? Thanks a lot.
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Jay on August 12, 2004 07:13 PM
If you find an E-mail commercial, tell me the E-mail address and I shall
"Blitz" them. Thank You.
Send all E-mails regarding commercials to commercialattack@hotmail.com
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Commercial Attack on August 16, 2004 08:01 PM
"Try it, you'll like it."
The commercial was alka-seltzer. The actor at the end would say "I tried it - I didn't like it".
The guy ended his statement with. "I tried it, ....... I thought i was gonna die"
posted by
JE on October 3, 2004 10:44 PM
Does anyone know where to get a hold of the 'ancient Chinese secret' commercial? I loved it.
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JFPH on January 22, 2005 07:02 PM
[quote]Hi! I'm trying to recall the product that used the slogan, "Try it, you'll like it." Can you help me? Also, about when was the commercial run? Thanks a lot.[/quote]
[the rest of the comment deleted by blog proprietor due to unnecessarily lgraphic content]
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blah on March 11, 2005 03:17 PM
Ok, I'm dying trying to figure out the commercial that starts out with a man saying, "Welcome to ______ country." Could someone PLEASE tell me what he says? Thank you :)
posted by
Lily on April 27, 2005 06:17 PM
its welcome to Alamo country
posted by
bob on June 9, 2005 11:56 AM
I'm looking for a commercial that contains the slogan "What's in the box?". If anyone remembers this commercial I would really appreciate hearing from you.
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May 19, 2004
"I expect and demand your very best. Anything less, you should have joined the Air Force."
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"If there's ever anything I can do for you . . . or more to the point, to you, you let me know, okay?"
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Tony Richardson.
"You don't achieve anything by looking backward."
It makes me feel proud to be his fan.
Let me know if the link doesn't work.
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Dear Hans Blix,
You didn't find the sarin gas shell. In fact, you didn't find anything. You do realize you have zero credibility on this issue, right? Return to obscurity, pawn.
Dear Members of the Political Left,
You said the war wasn't justified because there was no evidence of a WMD program in Iraq. We found mobile labs and precursors that possibly had civilian uses...but weren't being used for those civilian purposes, and could be used to produce WMD at the press of a button.
But that wasn't good enough for you. You insisted the war wasn't justified because we hadn't found any actual WMD delivery vehicles. We found several empty warheads...no reason for Saddam to keep them unless he might want to use them right?
But that wasn't good enough for you. You insisted the war wasn't justified because we hadn't found any actual WMD. We have now found both mustard gas and sarin gas still in the shells.
But that wasn't good enough for you, either. You now insist the war wasn't justified because the shells were degraded with age and we haven't found a stockpile. Will anything ever be good enough for you?
Your superhero, Hans Blix, couldn't find anything. The military did. Clearly, the inspections were not working.
You claim "Bush Lied" or at least "misled". It's time to admit that you are the ones being dishonest on this issue.
Dear Members of the Mainstream News Media,
The evidence given by SecState Powell in his address to the UN was based largely on visual evidence of Iraq moving WMD; the indicators were in the presence of decontamination trucks and the like, because if Saddam hadn't been moving the WMD in an attempt to conceal the WMD from the inspectors, we would not have had the satellite photos.
Still, Hans Blix could not find WMD. But the terrorists stumbled across some, which resulted in an inadvertant discovery by our soldiers. WMD has been found in Iraq in the hands of terrorists. How did it get there? Obviously, it was either concealed by Saddam to be found only by chance (again, inspections not working), or were delivered directly to the terrorists/former regime loyalists for safekeeping. Either way, President Bush is at least partially vindicated. Why aren't we hearing this from any of you? Why aren't you providing some sort of analysis of this issue? Why don't you do your job? Are you too busy trying to ensure President Bush is not re-elected? "Objectivity" is just a nonsense-sound to you, isn't it?
Dear SecState Powell,
I'd heard that you tended to cover your posterior, politically-speaking. I guess it makes sense, since most Generals must be politically savvy and self-protective to make that level of rank. It's no wonder you are the Left's favorite Republican.
Thus, it is sweet irony to me that the very same week you try to protect your reputation and distance yourself from President Bush by telling Tim Russert your briefing to the UN on WMD was apparently mistaken, we encounter actual WMD in Iraq. Yes, it's not a stockpile indicative of an active WMD program. It's also still significant enough that your retraction makes you look pretty stupid. I'm very glad you won't be around as Secretary of State any more. If you worried more about integrity than reputation, your department might have had some more successes.
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Dear President Bush,
I know its not your nature (or the philosphy of the Republican Party) to get on the stump and celebrate when your point-of-view turns out to be right, or to rally the party in times like this (Newt tried to do it, and look what happened to him) But ya know, we (your constituents) really need some good news right about now. We've been listening to the Angry left spouting lots of crap the past many months. We'd like to hear some real talking points for a change. So snap to it!
Of course I say this in all due respect...
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Jeremy on May 19, 2004 09:00 AM
Yes. An apt addition. Thanks, Jeremy.
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"Remember to memorize pages 39 through 110 for tomorrow's lesson."
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I'm #2 and #7 for Google searches for "Sean Kinsell". Umm, dude, he's over here (#1 in the search, as it should be).
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Aw, Crap
Sterling Sharpe is a month younger than me.
I know that doesn't make much difference...I mean Tom Brady is years younger, and I'll probably never accomplish as much as Tom did in his first 2 years in the NFL.
But every once in a while, these things hit home.
Dangit.
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On the bright side, he's replacing Deion Sanders...
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One thing that is near and dear to me:
I want a mature society for our country. I want our society to reverse the trend toward isolation and "privacy" and regain interconnectedness. I want to restore standards of decency and conduct. But please, before you react, read what those words mean to me:
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1) Mature Society -
In almost every case, I support programs which encourage self-reliance and accepting the consequences of your choices. In the same manner, I nearly always oppose programs which encourage dependence, immaturity, and allow people to escape the consequences of their own choices. As such, I oppose welfare, be it personal or corporate. I strongly advocate limiting awards in lawsuits. I oppose the current form of abortion (although I don't want it completely illegal) and advocate more restrictions on type, time limit, and circumstance. I think the current laws regarding "bankruptcy" are far too lax, as well.
In general, I feel that if the consequences of a choice don't kill you, you should have to live with it. Additionally, the main governmental intervention should be to identify the choices that might ruin your life and educate the public on those choices. Beyond that, the government should only intervene to prevent death, leaving discomfort.
For example, we have hunger in the United States. But hunger is a slippery word...is it based on caloric intake? Nutrient intake? Number of meals? As far as I have been able to determine with internet research, no one in the United States is near starvation...so it is not the government's worry. But that's just one example; I'm sure you can think of your own...
Because if you live in extreme discomfort, then you have a motivation to improve your lot, or (if it's too late for you) you serve as an example to others who might make that choice.
That doesn't mean that it is the government's main responsibility to keep everyone alive as long as possible, though. I'm talking "trauma prevention", not "old age insurance". Death comes to us all, and if you make a series of foolhardy choices, you must be allowed to life, and die, as a result of those chocies. That's freedom. That's responsibility.
2) I want our society to reverse the trend toward isolation and "privacy" and regain interconnectedness -
The most heinous crimes seem to always be committed by someone who "was always quiet, pretty much kept to himself..." I don't think that's an accident. If you feel like you are faceless, like no one knows or cares about you, you are more likely to commit atrocities, feeling safe in your anonymity. The more people you know and interact with, the more connected you are to society, the more empathy you absorb, the more you care for those around you, the more you feel someone is watching and judging your behavior. This is a good thing. There are irritations associated with it, yes, but there is also more compassion. You can tell we are an extremely rich nation, because we expect that we can and should buy our way out of the irritation caused by our fellow man. As a society, we want to be free from someone watching and judging us, we want to hole ourselves up in our private castle, our personal Fortress of Solitude. I think that's a bad thing. The more privacy we have, the more we forget the truth contained in the sentence, "Do not ask for whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee." Every death diminishes us; every suffering hurts us. Along with getting the government out of making life easy for people, I want to get society as a whole back into helping. Sure, we never stopped having private charities...but it should be one or the other: government or private, and we know how much the government sucks at helping people. If the government encourages immaturity and dependence by meeting someone's basic needs without effort on their own part (and I believe it does), a charity at least tends to rouse a person's self-respect enough to not take advantage...and a charity has more options in dealing with a recalcitrant sluggard who won't work to meet his own needs.
3) I want to restore standards of decency and conduct -
Please understand, I am not advocating new laws of censorship or making actions illegal. I am saying that people should consider the impact of their actions more fully. I don't think we really need smoking bans...but non-smokers have a right to peace from smoke, as well, and it was a lack of standards of conduct on the part of smokers that led to it. At one time, no one would use foul language in public at all, much less around ladies or children. Now, "entertainers" have pushed the limits to the point that they regularly say "a$$" on prime-time TV. Cable television had much to do with that.
In general, I think that came from the "Me Generation" of the 70s. People stopped caring about what was good for society, or even what society thought, and started caring only for themselves. I hate to bring up "The Children" as a cause, but I wish people would stop trying to erode standards to a level that a 20-somethign can handle and start remembering that children go everywhere and see everything, and it all affects them.
What I mean is: I have no desire to close Strip Clubs or Adult Book Stores or make any aspect of homosexual behavior illegal or anything I can think of. I do object to the extreme sexualization of our society. Kids can't avoid it...can't we at least contain the most blatant aspects of sexuality away from the kids?
So what does this make me? There are some libertarian aspects (though not a lot), some Democrat, a good dose of conservative...and yet there's stuff none of them would agree with. I crave a society that values community, responsibility, self-reliance, maturity, compassion (personal, not governmental aid fueled by high taxation).
Final Note: It's impossible to sum an entire world view and life philosophy in a few paragraphs...there may be some contradictions or badly expressed thoughts or outright idiocies. My apologies, in advance. Bring them up, and we can discuss them in the comments.
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And, it's your destiny to seek some serious psychiatric help.
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Oh, right, to call you stupid would be an insult to stupid people! I've known sheep that could outwit you! I've worn dresses with higher I.Q.s!
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"Oh Portia, do shut up."
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Jeff G on May 18, 2004 09:17 AM
Yeah, I apologize for stealing your meme...but I do that, sometimes.
I enjoyed it enough that I had to see what I could do with the idea...
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Nathan on May 18, 2004 11:23 AM
Why did he name his daughter after a car?
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I'm #6 on a Google Search for "Site Very Important".
The only thing is, it's from the French Google.
Thanks. I think.
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The Democrat Party, the Party of "Yeargh!" and Al Sharpton and Cynthia McKinney and Michael Moore, have a new embarassment:
The Ohio Democratic Party has named raunchy former talk show host Jerry Springer as a delegate to the Democratic National Convention in Boston, the Associated Press reports:
"He's made 50 appearances at Democratic events this year. He's been an outspoken advocate for the party," said Dan Trevas, spokesman for the Ohio Democratic Party.
The party also named Springer "Democrat of the Year." Imagine how humiliating this was to the runner-up.
From Monday's Best of the Web
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Actually, Jerry Springer was a pretty popular Mayor of Cincinnati on the earl 1980s. He ran for Governor in 1982 and might have been successful but for a (ahem) "youthful indescretion" in neighboring Kentucky. Springer is smart, and had a distinguished career as a public servant. If only he hadn't gone to Chicago...
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Great post by one of my favorite thinkers over here. I really think Sean should be a leading voice in our society, and will become so if he chooses that path...
One thing I wish I could get across clearly to the rest of you want to emphasize and make absolutely clear:
1) I don't approve of homosexual behavior; I cannot condone or approve of something I feel is sinful behavior.
2) It doesn't matter if I don't approve, any more than it matters that I don't approve of people trying to get rich using the Stock Market (which I also consider sinful), or that I consider the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to be heretical.
3) Disapproval of a belief or behavior does not equate to disapproval of the person.
4) Get over it, and get over yourself. (getting over myself, first)
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Nathan, thanks as always--totally blushing--but if what I've said is all you need to qualify as worthy of being a leading voice in American society nowadays, we're in deep trouble.
posted by
Sean Kinsell on May 18, 2004 06:25 AM
While I wholeheartedly agree with your points, Nathan (and I am sure a drop of grace is included with each), living where I currently do, the last part of number 2 is on the forefront of my mind, everyday and in most conversations.
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Rae on May 18, 2004 09:38 AM
Rae, your comment made me glance at my post again, and that made me realize that perhaps the line "get across to the rest of you" is a tad defensive, dontcha think? [grin]
That was in anticipation of someone getting irritated with my opinion of homosexuality...obviously, I have a lot more people than just homosexuals stopping by here...and it's not just homosexual activists who have taken me to task for some of my opinionated comments. Ah, well. In any case, the defensive comment is really only directed to anyone who might be irritated with me for any opinion I share.
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Several similar reports.
At the very least, this represents a major development in the evolution of tactics used against Coalition Forces.
Update:
This report goes a little deeper; however, I disagree with some of its conclusions. Even if this shell dates back to prior to the first gulf war, I think its presence is more than an oversight (oops! forgot to destroy one!), and signifies a deliberate effort to retain WMD, which is a further material breach of Resolution 1441 and absolutely satisfies all given objections to invading Iraq.
Update II:
Hm. A definitive coverage on the Sarin gas shell can be found at Citizen Smash's
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However, it should be possible to trace the origin of this shell through casing fragments, or if they managed to copy down batch/serial number before they exploded the ordnance (which I'm going to hope they did).
If the origin is traceable, and if the shell is determined to be from Saddam's arsenal, then it is clear that the WMD was not destroyed, and Saddam was attempting to maintain an arsenal of chemical weapons at a minimum.
Understand this: we don't need a "smoking gun." We don't need to find vast quantities. If we find just one definitive sample of chemical or nuclear weapons, then the question of Iraq and WMD is settled, period.
Even if no one on the left would ever admit it.* They really haven't demonstrated much in the way of deep introspection or the ability to admit mistaken assumptions.
[* because, "Bush told the truth and people died!" just doesn't sound as snappy...]
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Was I Wrong About the Ghraib Prison Abuse?
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Phil Carter of Intel Dump has some good stuff regarding the Prison Abuses in Iraq in his post on 15 May.
If the sources are correct, and if his analysis is accurate, then I'm wrong about Gen. Karpinski, and Rumsfeld should step down. However, this is still in the early stages, and I'm not willing to concede anything; my assertions may still bear out. We'll see.
But like the Nick Berg story, this raises more questions than it answers.
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This seems to answer the allegations well, in my opinion.
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We saw this on the news last night in the form of a 30 second gloat.
I'm pretty sure I grabbed the Saran Wrap rather than the tinfoil to make my hat with, but the first thing that came to mind was that this was awfully frigging convenient.
Conspiracy theories aside, something doesn't feel right about this. I, too, am reserving judgement for the time being.
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Deb on May 17, 2004 08:30 AM
...I just didn't want to shy away from it because it didn't fit with my pre-disposed notions.
I did hesitate in blogging...but Phil has a good track record, good experience in the military and in intelligence, and understands law much better than I do. I figured at the very least I could acknowledge it and send people to look at his take on the issue.
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Nathan on May 17, 2004 08:40 AM
Hmmmmm.....
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Rae on May 17, 2004 08:47 AM
So far, I don't think I've disagreed with anything you've had to say on the subject--including this post.
I'm trying to wait a little to see what happens in the trials. I have strong feelings on the subject, but I think that a lot of it could be changing over the next few weeks.
posted by
zombyboy on May 17, 2004 09:24 AM
I appreciate that you blogged it, Nathan, for precisely those reasons.
I'm not closed to the idea that I was very wrong about this (and possibly other things by extension), but I've definitely learned to wait patiently to let it all fall out before I opine.
Thing is, I can't seem to blog without commenting so I'm glad you did. :)
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What's Up With the Ecosystem?
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Here are my stats for the last few days from NZ Bear's Ecosystem:
2004-05-16 1943 38 36
2004-05-15 1943 38 36
2004-05-14 1943 38 36
2004-05-13 1943 38 36
2004-05-12 1943 38 36
Yep, that's right: no change for the last 5 days. Now, I know I have at least two new unique links that aren't showing up...and even with no new linkage, there is still some variation of position, usually.
All I can say is: Hmmm.....
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Hey, me too! Maybe they discounted instalanches due to the discussion of N*** Ber*?
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Rae on May 16, 2004 11:17 PM
I've noticed it too, that numbers seem to be at a standstill. I think perhaps the Bear is a bit broken. Can't be the easiest site to manage, I would bet.
posted by
LeeAnn aka Cheesemistress on May 17, 2004 08:55 AM
...it's just that when it breaks, he usually posts something about it, or someone else notices it before me.
I just wanted to call some attention to it, cuz I've been eagerly anticipating the day I move up out of Flappy Birds again...although it may be a while...
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Nathan on May 17, 2004 08:58 AM
I'm stuck too. I've been at 174 for several days now.
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My Blog comes up #4 in a Google Search with the words "Nathan Brilliant".
Thanks, people. I couldn't have done it without you. Really, you are too kind.
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A few comments were left regarding this post last week.
They were left while I was in transit, and I wanted to take some time to respond to them more fully, so I didn't get to it until now.
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Much of this post is in response to Ilyaka...I suspect that she was merely reacting to a misunderstanding of what her opponents were advocating. However, I feel must respond to what she actually said, including giving my reaction to logical implications. I'm willing to retract any of my assertions if her implications were unintentional.
Ilyaka kicks things off with this quote:
According to estimates from the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS), there were 691,710 nonfatal violent victimizations committed by current or former spouses, boyfriends, or girlfriends of the victims during 2001 (table 1). Such crimes — intimate partner violence — primarily involve female victims. About 588,490, or 85% of victimizations by intimate partners in 2001 were against women. Intimate partner violence made up 20% of violent crime against women in 2001. By contrast, during the year intimate partners committed 3% of all nonfatal violence against men. (See Criminal Victimization 2001, Changes 2000-01, with Trends 1993-2001, NCJ 194610, for more information on victim/offender relationship.)
...then tries to pre-emptively dismiss any counterclaims by dismissing anything else as "conspiracy theories". This shows her unwillingness to actually face anything that might contradict her world view, as evidenced by the fact that she can base her entire argument on one stat by one organization. Sure, I'm sure she could find others, but to maintain her view she must ignore a whole host of information too voluminous to be mere conspiracy.
And here's the search string from which I found all those links in the first two pages. There's at least 22 pages (I didn't bother to click further), not all of which is applicable, of course.
But Ilyaka could have still been slightly more aware of both her source and the context of her data. The source is the US government, which assumes that violence is mostly men against women and the context goes right in line with this: since the law is written to arrest and prosecute men if any violence occurs, regardless of by whom and on whom, then naturally more men will be arrested and prosecuted. Since the legal system assumes that men are more violent, then naturally more men will be convicted, which is then used to justify laws that require men to be arrested and prosecuted even if they were a victim of violence. It's a vicious cycle.
The context of the web debate is that Cathy Young points out that the current laws in many locations are to automatically arrest and prosecute men if the police are called in a domestic violence dispute. If the violence is perpetrated on women 85% of the time as Ilyaka asserts, that would still not justify automatically arresting the man, because even by her own citing, in 15% of the cases the wrong person would be arrested. The people she was debating/disagreeing with (including Cathy Young's report, and Jeff Goldstein and Dean Esmay who were agreeing with Ms. Young) were not advocating men not bein arrested, they were just saying asserting that there are enough indications that women are violent against men to justify eliminating automatically arresting the man. If for no other reason, because even a false arrest can be used by women to prevent the man from getting custody.
Whether or not she intended to, Ilyaka is thus advocating that because of past conviction rates (not actual violence statistics, but only those that are reported, acted on by the police, brought to trial, and then convicted), men should, in fact, always be arrested in any domestic violence incident, regardless of that actual facts.
Someone gave the example of an argument in which he threw a dish into the corner. Ilyaka, perhaps unintentionally, insists he be arrested. Once, my ex-wife charged me and bit my arm (leaving teeth marks), ripped my shirt, pinched and twisted my skin hard enough to leave bruises, slapped me, choked me while saying "I'll kill you, I'll kill you!", and hit me hard enough to break my glasses. Since "guys aren't supposed to hit girls", I left the room and punched the wall in frustration, leaving a small hole. When my ex-wife saw this, she began wailing about my violent nature and was inconsolable for an hour. Had she called the police, Ilyaka would not have been satisfied unless I had been arrested for that, since 85% of convictions for violence are given to men. Thanks, Ilyaka, it's nice to know you are so charitable toward me.
The whole post is because I'm a little sick of the Deification (canonization?) of women in our society. I've already ranted (as have others) about how men are treated in something as ubiquitous as TV commercials and Sitcoms. The point of the post (and the other Mother's Day post), is to assert that women are no better (but also no worse), than men.
Women are merely the other side of the coin; generally, where men have a weakness, women have an opposite but equal weakness. If men obsess too much about sex, and use women to satisfy that craving, women obsess too much about money/security and use men to satisfy that craving. If men will dump women for someone younger/prettier/thinner, women will dump men for someone richer/more successful. If men have an urge to have sex with different women, women have an urge to control every aspect of their man's life and activities.
Women usually want to change the man they're with. Women nag. Women often judge/reject their partner's friends, yet hold their own as sacrosanct.
Women are petty, and will hate another woman for nothing more than having naturally clear skin, or garnering more attention from males. Beautiful women usually have few female friends...
Women are extremely capable of justifying their own actions (to themselves, at least), and thus a fight between women is usually extremely vicious with little sense of proportion. When men fight, it goes until someone says "uncle" and then it's done, sometimes resulting in new-found respect or friendship. When women fight, they are out to destroy, maim, or kill, and they will be enemies for life.
This is not to say that women are any worse. All the above aspersions are merely from looking at it from a male perspective. Men are just as bad from a female perspective. However, I wish to reiterate that I am extremely tired of our society, as well as specific members of our society, attempting to put women on a higher plane. Thus you get comments like Jo's:
...something in the neighborhood of 80% of those are considered "medical neglect". Considering the high rate of single moms and even married mothers being considered the primary "caregiver", this is something that should be taken into consideration when looking at these kinds of stats.
Perhaps I misunderstood what Jo meant by posting that...but let's turn it around:
...something in the neighborhood of 80% of men's abuse of children is "unintentional beatings", borne of frustration from women nagging and nitpicking. When men do kill, at least it's quick and relatively painless with a gunshot instead of slow and agonizing like "medical neglect", poisoning, or drowning the kid, which women usually do, and that should be taken into consideration when looking at these kinds of stats."
See how ridiculous that sounds? There is no rational way to try mitigate or minimize the fact of abuse, or trying to turn it around for it to "really be men's fault, actually". If you want to try to mitigate women's culpability by the reality of single-motherhood, you might want to go right back to the initial debate which is that the current policy of "automatically" arresting and prosecuting the man in complete disregard to actual facts of the case results in more men being forced out of the home, away from their kids. That's what Ms Young was asserting from the beginning, and what Jeff G. and Dean E. were supporting with non-"conspiracy theory" facts: that the current system does not help women or children, and should be reconsidered.
I'll restate it, more simply:
1) Domestic violence is a complex issue, and cannot simply be characterized as "Man on Woman".
2) As such, our current legal system that assumes that circumstance should be overhauled to reflect the true situation.
3) When a man has beaten a woman, he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
4) However, when a woman assaults/commits battery on a man, it should also be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and currently is not.
5) When the violence is mutual, which is in approximately half of all domestic violence incidents, automatically arresting and prosecuting the man will not solve anything, and new solutions are required.
But there are people who are committed to making sure that no one even investigates the possibility. I sincerely hope Ilyaka isn't one of those.
Because here's some stats that are not mere conspiracy theory:
Violence against children by women is another issue where the public attitude is very different than the facts revealed by formal studies. The Third National Incidence Study of Child Abuse and Neglect (NIS-3) from the US Department of Health and Human Services (call 1-800-FYI-3366 for a copy) reveals data about child abuse by mothers:
Women commit most child abuse in intact biological families. When the man is removed from the family the children are at greater risk. Mother-only households are more dangerous to children than father-only households.
Children are 3 times more likely to be fatally abused in Mother-only Households than in Father-only Households, and many times more likely in households where the mother cohabits with a man other than the biological father.
Children raised in Single-mother Households are 8 times more likely to become killers than children raised with their biological father.
Other studies reveal more about female violence against children:
Women hit their male children more frequently and more severely than they hit their female children.
Women commit 55% of child murders and 64% of their victims are male children.
Eighty two percent of the general population had their first experience of violence at the hands of women, usually their mother.
Our culture learns to be violent from our mothers, not our fathers.
Yet, 3.1 million reports of child abuse are filed against men each year, most of which are false accusations used as leverage in a divorce or custody case.
And some more:
Minor Assaults:
Year 1975 1985 1992
Assault by husband 98 82 92
Assault by wife 98 75 94
Severe Assaults:
Year 1975 1985 1992
Assault by husband 38 30 19
Assault by wife 47 43 44
Wives report they have been severely assaulted by husband
22 per 1000
Wives report they have severely assaulted husband
59 per 1000
Husbands report they have been severely assaulted by wives
32 per 1000
Husbands report they have severely assaulted wives
18 per 1000
Husbands & wives both report wife has been assaulted
20 per 1000
Husbands & wives both report husband has been assaulted
44 per 1000
(Tables prepared using data from "Change In Spouse Assault Rates From 1975 to 1992: A Comparison of Three National Surveys In The United States", by Murray A. Straus and Glenda Kaufman Kantor)
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Hmmm...I am still stewing on it, but over all some very thought provoking things here and I agree with much of it...but still need to allow it to sink in and re-read...
You know that I support this, really, but I think that it what I am examining is my reaction to a man saying it...interesting
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Interesting.
There will need to be an accounting for both nations, at some point. Now isn't the proper time, because we are fully occupied in Afghanistan and Iraq. 2005 or -6 might be a real possibility for either one, though.
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Sean makes some nice points in his essay over here, itself a response in part to my post over here regarding John Derbyshire's post.
Sean correctly notes that I was extremely vague about what, exactly, I agree or disagree with in Derb's post. There are good reasons for that vagueness:
1) There are some people who dislike John Derbyshire to the point that they will attack anything he says and anyone who agrees with him. Derb could say 1+1=2, and if I write a post saying I agree with that wholeheartedly, I've probably just let myself in for a great deal of grief from people who want to get their hatred of Derb off their chest. I can take it, but I don't enjoy it.
2) Homosexuality is an emotionally-charged issue. There is no position you can take in any shade of disapproval of homosexuality that is reasonable enough to avoid anger, insults, and ad hominem attacks. Again, I can take it, but I don't enjoy it.
In any case, here the points from Sean that I appreciate:
However, when that initial stage of big-time identity shift hits the spoiled leftovers of '60's anti-establishmentism, the results are not pretty.
But I don't think they're intrinsic to homosexuality, either...Despite the many troubled aspects of gay life, I think we're steadily getting our act together.
I hope that they aren't instrinsic, and I hope things are steadily improving. I've seen dueced little evidence to the contrary, but I'll allow that Sean has seen more than me, and I'll defer to his experience, and pray for that development coming to fruition.
That means that when conservatives say that they believe homosexuality should be decriminalized but still think it's immoral behavior, gays have to quit wringing their every word for evidence that they "really" hate us and want us all lined up and shot. It also means that conservatives have to stop picking over the lives of gays who say they're happy for evidence of the slightest misgiving or strain of melancholy to prove that we "really" aren't.
Yeah. 100% agreement.
As for Derb's article, well, there were previous articles that had stuff I actually agree with. It's no so much a neat "agree/disagree" choice on this article, as much as I think he raises some interesting points that should be a part of the debate, like "mild, tolerant homophobia" and the idea that it would be interesting if homosexuals got their wish and there were a clearly identifiable gene marker for homosexuality...because there would then be the possibility of "fixing" it. I guess the nature of homosexuality is what it is, regardless of anyone's assumptions, hopes, or wishes, but it seems to me that it would be in the long term interest of the homosexual movement to insist that homosexuality is the result of complex environmental forces, culminated in a choice made among alternatives that are so limited as to not even feel like a choice, and that homosexuality is the best among the remaining choices....
And the one paragraph I actually absolutely agree with is:
This state of doublethink is impervious to reason or evidence. Male homosexuals apparently all believe that (a) AIDS has been a ghastly tragedy for them, deserving of widespread sympathy from the rest of us, not to mention lavish government-research funding paid from our taxes; (b) that the presence of this horrible disease in our society is no responsibility of theirs whatsoever; and (c) that AIDS is pretty harmless anyway, now easily controlled by drugs.
That is the exact same impression I have of homosexual attitude towards AIDS. It is destructive and counterproductive, but it is also absolutely ineradicable from homosexual society, at least for now....
So. Who wants to call me names?
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Right on, Nathan.
Tolerance of homosexuality is demanded of us as citizens of a free society. As little as I think of it, I must concede that it's better left untouched by the law. I feel much the same about many other forms of behavior that I strongly disapprove.
But to demand my approval of said behaviors is arrogant in the extreme. It risks my good will. It's the likely source of a lot of current backlash against homosexuals. Similarly, to demand that the rest of us open up institutions with thousands of years of meaning and tradition behind them, to embrace persons who don't qualify for them and are proud of the fact, is asking for trouble as well.
Americans have to relearn the fine art of tolerating without condoning -- and the tolerated have to learn to accept that that's all they're due, by any standard of right or reason.
posted by
Francis W. Porretto on May 16, 2004 06:59 AM
It absolutely fascinates me that whenever homosexuality is discussed it is invariably specific to *male* homosexuals -- Apparently Queen Victoria was right.
Myria
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Myria on May 16, 2004 12:00 PM
Okay, I'll bite: What did Queen Victoria say?
I do think that "homosexuality" is a beast that no one knows how to handle.
Male and female homosexuality are different from each other, and as different as they from heterosexualtiy.
Heterosexuality is based upon the joining of complementary "differents". No matter how much variation there may be within a gender, you can't logically make "complementation of 'differents'" an aspect of homosexuality without then directly implying that homosexuals are instrinsically different than heterosexuals of the same gender, and that open's a Pandora's box, if you think it through.
And the causes of homosexuality are just as rife with self-contradictions. If there were absolutely no choice involved with becoming a homosexual, many things would be absent from homosexual society that are clearly present. And yet, if homosexuality were absolutely due to choice rather than behavioral or biological "destiny", then there are other aspects that would be absent that are clearly present.
And so, I must conclude that a woman becomes a homosexual for entirely different reasons than a male does, and so there are different expressions of that homosexuality. It's probably as complex as why someone ended up at the height and build they are: a complex combination of genetic and environmental influence...
But in the heterosexual world, women are significantly different than men on any specific subject. Take domestic violence. When the subject comes up, most people discuss what men do to women. Other people absolutely deny that women could ever be violent except in retaliation...but there are strong indications that women are often more violent to their loved ones than men are...it's just that women are more subtle and indirect.
...and so I think when someone is struggling with some aspect of homosexuality that they have a problem with, it is the easiest to target male homosexuals. They tend to have the most graphic, most flamboyant, most easily designated negative behaviors.
Personally, one thing I've learned through all these discussions of homosexuality is that I have a far bigger problem with homosexual activists than I do homosexuals. I could see myself being very good friends with Sean, but I've met few other homosexuals who will stop "being gay" long enough to just be friends.
(referencing Sean's line about "not baiting heterosexual friends: it made me realize that every friendship I've had with a homosexual has ended because they wouldn't stop coming on to me despite repeated requests they cease and desist...)
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Nathan on May 16, 2004 12:14 PM
The perhaps apocryphal story (though whether strictly true or not it clearly fits the tenor of the times and is far from unbelievable) goes that in 1885 there was an anti-homosexual law passed by parliament that included both gays and lesbians. Queen Victoria refused to sign it into law until all references to women were removed because women would not act in such a way and she would not allow women to be blemished by references to such acts.
Frankly I think you are creating distinctions were there are none, I fail to see how male homosexuality, female homosexuality, and heterosexuality are fundamentally different except in how we as a society wish to deal with them. In my view no one needs to know how to "handle" the homosexual "beast" save those individuals who are homosexuals who should be free to associate as they like -- as they say, don't make me no nevermind. In the end we as a society treat them as different creatures because, like Victoria, we either ignore or aren't bothered by female homosexuality (a common theme in many men's fantasies, actually, judging from what I hear about porn), and wish to see the majority heterosexuality as somehow objectively "right" when frankly the terms "right" and "wrong" have no meaning here. Male homosexuality elicits that irrational "Ick factor" in many, especially non-homosexual men, and that's pretty much all it boils down to.
Myria
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Myria on May 16, 2004 02:20 PM
Oh. No, if that's what she said, Queen Victoria was dead wrong, either coldbloodedly refusing to recognize the problems of her own gender or naively ignorant of the same.
Your "scare quotes" imply that you really didn't understand my point, looking for offense in words where none is implied. There was no implied "right" and "wrong", merely a recognition of reality: men and women are different.
You yourself use that as the basis of being amused that people only deal with male homosexuality.
Follow the logic: men and women are different. Two sides of the same coin, if you will. When a man and a woman join together, they must accomodate and compromise on the difference, the different attitudes, the different approaches. The combination of a complementary difference expands horizons and broadens understandings in the way that mere friendships cannot, because you are joining lives together.
Compare and contrast that with homosexuals, who are joining with similarities. Instead of an accomodation and compromise of differences, you get a duplication and intensification. There are minor accomodations, but we're talking in broad terms here: thus, you get an emphasis on sex in male homosexuality (emphasis on sex being generally masculine), and you get control issues and manipulation with female homosexuals. But in no case is it like a heterosexual relationship.
This is borne out in things as simple as the rate of sexual activity: it has been demonstrated that you can accurately predict the general rate of sexual activity by the nature of the partnership.
The only way a homosexual partnership can be like a heterosexual partnership in these issues is if homosexuals are fundamentally different than heterosexuals...and then that becomes a conundrum, since only one of the partners could be significantly different than the norm to bring about the same complementation aspect.
Which is not to say that homosexuality is wrong on that basis. There was no value judgment given, and you are jumping at shadows. (there are other aspects upon which I do make value judgments, but not this one)
But if you wish to ignore everything I've said and try to dismiss all evidence and logic as mere "Ick" factor, that is your prerogative. However, I won't let it go unchallenged here.
See, Sean? This is why I originally preferred to remain vague.
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Nathan on May 16, 2004 08:14 PM
Nathan:
"I do think that 'homosexuality' is a beast that no one knows how to handle."
Yow! When you talk all hot like that, no wonder your friends can't stop coming on to you. :)
Seriously, though: I've had women friends who kept after me after I made it clear that I wasn't feeling bohemian and experimental. In my experience, there are some people you just can't draw out in an attempt to be a nice and understanding intimate friend. It's unfortunate that it has to be that way, but I think that these days, the problem swings all ways, as it were. Most of my straight friends (the women more than the men, unsurprisingly) seem to have encountered the same thing. Maybe a strategic fist in the jaw when necessary?
(And I wasn't seriously implying that you had failed your civic duty, BTW.)
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Hmm, perhaps I've been unclear. the use of the word "beast" in my phrase "...homosexuality is a beast..." is merely an attempt to show that no one agrees on the nature of homosexuality. Everyone has their own view, and people argue past each other without understanding (or proabably even listening), resulting in a beast of a debate in which people get feelings hurt with no real productive gains. It is most assuredly not an expression of a value judgment. According to my understanding of the English language, I used the term appropriately...however, I admit I could have made it more clear by saying "the topic of homosexuality is a beast..."
Is that better?
Oh, and you lost me on the "civic duty" sentence. I didn't think you'd implied anything at all, so I'm puzzled. I'm also not trying to imply I've ever tried to be someone's friend on the basis of civic duty. I like people. If someone is interesting and funny and fun to be with, I want to relax and be friends with them. But it gets to be tiresome if everything you say is twisted around into a sexual entendre. It just got to be not worth it anymore. And I am as unsurprised as you that women have that experience. Part of the reason I am the honorable man I am is based on understanding what, exactly, most men do (or try to do) to women.
Personally, I feel sexuality is and should be a minor portion of the total being. I can understand why circumstances in current society are not conducive for a homosexual to do that...but it always seems imbalanced to me. In fact, I really can't stand hanging around anyone who sees the entire world through the focused lens of one aspect of life.
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Nathan on May 16, 2004 09:58 PM
The "civic duty" thing was in reference to the "See, Sean? This is why I originally preferred to remain vague" line...meaning, the beginning of my original post was a joke: I didn't really mean to say that you and Susanna were, like, falling down on the job because you linked something without giving line-by-line commentary on it. I can certainly see now how the connection wasn't clear. Sorry. It had nothing to do with your reasons for being friends with people.
I'm not fond of emoticons--they seem like mugging to me, but I use the :) when I think that's the only safe way to make it clear that I'm joking around. If even that isn't going to work, I'll just stop making jokes and remove the problem altogether.
posted by
Sean Kinsell on May 16, 2004 10:30 PM
No, keep trying to be funny. It was obvious you were joking, but the subject wasn't obvious to me.
The reason why I mention you by name (i.e., "See, Sean?") is because I note in the first paragraph that your assessment of my vagueness is correct; ...since the second reason for that vagueness came true in scant hours from the posting, I wanted to call your attention to it. In a joking manner. I, too, hate using emoticons, but only outside of email.
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Can't find it at the New York Times, obviously.
...and here's one example.
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How Democrats Think
"Senator McCain would not have to leave his party," Mr. Kerrey said. "He could remain a Republican, would be given some authority over selection of cabinet people. The only thing he would have to do is say, `I'm not going to appoint any judges who would overturn Roe v. Wade,' " the Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion, which Mr. McCain has said he opposes.
See, the Democrats think it perfectly natural and normal for someone to sell out their ideals for a chance to seize power. Clinton did it by "triangulating": a blatant deliberate move to the center to win swing voters. Gore did it by "reinventing" himself every few months (...I still can't believe the "non-"liberal news media let him get away with that), Leiberman suddenly "forgot" his objections to Hollywood when he agreed to become Gore's running mate, Kucinich suddenly discovered he had a lifelong desire to support abortion rights when he decided to run for President, and Kerry's contortions to try and say what he thinks voters want to hear are the stuff of legend.
Why anyone ever votes Democrat is beyond me. It's like putting a "Kick Me" sign on your own back.
...but there are people who can't break up with someone who abuses them, too, so I guess there's precedent...
...the whole thing
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I once said that the best bet for the Dems to win in 2004 was for them to nominate President Bush. I think they're very close to that realization themselves.
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Evidence is “something that indicates,” according to Webster’s. Proof is “conclusive demonstration.” The report of a well-regarded allied intelligence service that a 9/11 hijacker appeared to have met with an Iraqi intelligence agent a few months before the attacks is certainly evidence of an Iraqi connection.
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Iraq was indeed involved in those assaults. There is considerable information to that effect, described in this piece and elsewhere. They include Iraqi documents discovered by U.S. forces in Baghdad that U.S. officials have not made public.
Peruse the entire piece.
Thanks to Dodd Harris
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Can anyone think of why this might be a bad idea? I can't.
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Under a barrage of international and domestic criticism, the top U.S. commander in Iraq has banned virtually all coercive interrogation practices, such as forcing prisoners to crouch for long periods or depriving them of sleep, the Pentagon announced on Friday.
Personally, I fear that it will turn out to be a mistake, but I can understand why they made this decision...
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No more coercion? Where will these fools ever find a better place for producing private porn tapes?
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COALITION forces will leave Iraq if the new interim government asks them.
The United States, UK, Italy, and Japan made their position clear following a meeting of the Group of Eight foreign ministers in Washington.
You may, if you wish, peruse the entire piece.
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CNN/Reuters: News reports have filtered out early this morning that US forces have swooped on an Iraqi Primary School and detained 6th Grade teacher Mohammed Al-Hazar. Sources indicate that, when arrested, Al- Hazar was in possession of a ruler, a protractor, a set square and a calculator. US President George W Bush immediately stated that this was clear and overwhelming evidence that Iraq did indeed possess weapons of maths instruction.
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Aha! No doubt he was a member of the al-Gebra terrorist group, feared by schoolkids the world around!
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I thought comical web puns were banned.
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I don't agree with all of it, of course. Some of it I do. Some of you will hate it, since it's Derb. Some of you will refuse to read it.
Which would be a shame. There's good food for thought here
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Refuse to read the only creature on earth who thinks about man-on-man action more than I do? Not on your life. I still think he's a self-aggrandizing jerk as a writer--the full equal of Tony Kushner and Michelangelo Signorile in that regard--but his political position on homosexuality has never struck me as extreme. It's actually expressed in the article you linked with less dyspepsia than usual; he can be (intentionally) funny when he isn't pomposing.
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Who does it better than Susanna?
Read this and this.
And this, too.
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Spartacus has the goods.
You know the drill.
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I guess I wouldn't to go so far as saying Nick Berg is dirty...
...but the more we learn, the more perplexing his story seems.
The Commissar has a good summation, including links to articles at Wizbangblog and Chronwatch.
My own early gut-reaction is that Nick was a useful idiot to the terrorists, and they used him as an unwitting sacrificial lamb. I think he agreed to help, and didn't realize the caliber of the men he was dealing with.
...but I could be wrong. There may be a rational explanation for his 2-degrees of separation with Moussaoui, but I can't think of one off-hand. His continued presence in Iraq is rather questionable, as well.
I don't know. We may never know the truth.
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Okay, so there I was, in the Congo...no, wait, that wasn't me...
Anyway, when we deploy, the Air Force has something they call the "Troop Commander": the poor sap who gets stuck with making sure the whole trip goes smoothly and everyone arrives at the appointed locations at the appointed times. It is usually the highest ranking person who can't get out of it. So Flight Docs and even aircrew in non-aircrew positions don't have to do it, and that means I've been Troop Commander on every deployment flight except one.
I've never had a problem before...
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...until this trip.
See, my first trip, there were only 5 of us. Not a big problem, even despite Guam having no electricity due to a typhoon, and the next typhoon hitting the island just as we were about to take off--we barely got off in time!
But the subsequent trips, the standard line was: "You are adults. This is when you are supposed to be here. Be on time, or you can explain to your commander why you didn't show up when you were supposed to."
Each time, I set the show-up time about 15 minutes before the bus had to leave to make it to the plane on time. That's worked without a hitch 4 times, even twice when there were more than 30 people.
This time, only 11. We were in Germany, everyone was of legal age, so I expected them to drink, and probably get drunk. No problem, they just have to watch out for each other and be responsible. We needed to leave for the terminal at 0520. At 0515, seven people still hadn't arrived. I started calling rooms...no one answered. Their hotel was 4-5 blocks away, so I started running...they were coming around the corner as I stepped out of the building. Whew.
Except that there were only five people. One, uh, "couldn't find his glasses". Why he didn't answer the phone, I don't know. But he finally arrived about 0527, and we got him checked out.
That left the last guy. No idea where he was. We called no less than 7 times. One of the enlisted had stopped by his room on his way out and stuck his head in the door and didn't see him. I told the front desk if he came by to make him get a cab ASAP.
We arrived at the terminal only a few minutes late. Not bad. I called the Military Police to see if they'd picked anyone up. He had last been seen at 3 AM, so I don't know where he could have disappeared to in just 2 hours.
Another 10 minutes, and the hotel desk clerk still hadn't seen him. So I called back the MPs and had them go check his room...if they found him, they would bring him directly to the airfield. Sure enough, he was snoozing on his bed.
I still don't really know what happened. As the Troop Commander, I was responsible for getting everyone on the plane on time, and I did. I should not have had to take the extraordinary step of involving the military police, because as an E-4, the standard is that he should have the responsibility to ensure he put enough measures in place to be there on time.
...and yet, I was responsible. If I hadn't figured out how to locate/find him, I would have had some explaining to do...
...but I did find him. In the end, no harm, so no foul. As an officer in charge of his deployment movement, I have the authority to give him a reprimand. A reprimand could hurt his chances to make E-5, or at least delay it. That could have reverberations down his career, and could mean he might be forced out...
Some officers might have torn into him.
My solution? It was a bad move on his part, but a better move on my part might have prevented it. He was at fault as a servicemember, but I was at fault as a leader. I told him I had no words for him, that I would turn it over to his chain of command. When I arrived, I told his senior NCO that I had no need to "burn" him for his irresponsibility, but that I would prefer that he learned a lesson from this, and that I would leave disposition entirely up to them. The grim look of the Senior Master Sergeant let me know he would get a butt-chewing of epic proportions...but I'm sure nothing will go into the records. The airman will be given the chance to learn from his mistake, grow from it, and if he successfully learns from this, it could be a step in the right direction for a great career.
I've given him an opportunity, and I hope he takes advantage of it.
But I also learned a lesson. It's not enough to "depend on people's responsibility". Not everyone has had the lessons I've had, and so not everyone is as obsessive about being in place on time. From now on, I will take the extra 30-60 minutes to make sure that everyone is awake and moving...although I will do my best to do it in a way that doesn't make them feel as if I'm doubting them.
Being a leader isn't easy, but it is fulfilling.
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Dude... here's another one for the books. Taking a student with me on a tail swap to Saudi we RON'ed at Mildenhall. Snow was moving in rapidly and we were attempting to take off way ahead of schedule. (get out while you still can) I tell the student to begin preflight while I stow my gear. When I returned...no student. I find her in the galley wrapping her recently purchased Christmas presents. Ass chewing commenses. I'm called away by the Mission Crew Commander and when I return to my station...no student. Gone. Nowhere to be found. Not outside the aircraft...not in the latrine...just gone. Pilot calls for engine start so I make the call to just leave her. Turns out she realized she had left her line badge in her billeting room so she decides to fetch the missing line badge.(without informing anyone) Guess she found it 'cause she had it with her when we returned to Mildenhall 3 days later on the return trip. And this with no alchohol involved.
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Thanks, Rae, for sharing this with us.
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As you all probably know by now, we are turning Fallujah over to the Iraqis. This will give us an opportunity to focus on other areas, and hopefully to build a new Iraqi Army with some of the folks that are feeling alienated right now. We're all painfully aware of the various issues associated with this move, but there's no point in discussing them. We'll make this work, just like we make everything else work to the best of our ability. The Marines fought hard in Fallujah and took a lot of very evil people out of the fight. That effort, and the associated loss of Marine lives, was not in vain. We're already seeing a significant decrease in the enemy's ability to attack our forces. The supply lines are open again and everything is flowing freely through the country. Their efforts to cut us of in order to break our willpower failed. The Iraqi people are tired of the enemy and they are turning them over to us left and right.
This is an important development.
The two biggest problems in the Rebuilding of Iraq are:
1) The news media, in looking for a story (to give them the benefit of the doubt), are emphasizing the negative aspects, both from a basic ignorance of military matters and because "Another Hospital Treats 5000 People Without Interruption", "Another Length of Power-Transmission Lines Strung", and "Another Water/Waste Treatment Plant Opened" doesn't really sell newspapers
2) The Iraqis have done an absolutely horrible job of keeping security themselves.
Number two is vital. We will probably keep bases in Iraq for several years...if they let us. The location is very strategically significant: right between Syria, Iran, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia. Plus, if we can keep troops there once Iraq is stable and autonomous, we can help ensure Iraq remains stable and autonomous by being on hand to prevent a war on/with the Kurds, a war between Sunnis/Shias, an invasion by Iran, or someone trying to set themselves up as the next Saddam.
It's been a few weeks since we said we'd speed up the process of determining "clean" Ba'athists and letting them go back to work. Since they represent experience, education, and training for vital security and infrastructure functions, I said at the time that it was probably a good idea. I haven't seen a single report of problems yet, and the Fallujah Brigade (the Iraqi military force that actually may have co-opted some of the most moderate insurgent members) seems to be doing a fairly good job. Maybe all we needed was for the Marines to engage and kill the worst of them?
I don't know. I know we aren't out of the woods yet. Muqtada al-Sadr's star is waning rapidly; he'll be dead or discredited within weeks, I think. The intense insurgent activities of Fallujah haven't spread to other cities, despite doomsayers who said things were on the verge of collapse. I trust Ben, because his info matches exactly what I hear coming out of there.
There's hope.
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When the pictures of the abuse of prisoners by the military in Iraq first surfaced, I advanced the idea that a large contributing factor was "Mob Mentality". By this, I mean that the idea of abuse was something that grew almost on its own, and may be impossible to assign to one person. It was the result of "egging on" and "spirit of the moment" that can happen to anyone under the right circumstances. It is the sort of thing that leads to riots, excessive hazing, excessive teasing, and the like. It is humanity at its worst. However, the abuses went on so long and went so far precisely because everyone involved lacked the courage to stand up and say, "This is wrong! Knock it off!", and so I absolutely blame the individuals involved.
I also blame the leaders who bore the responsibility to keep the prisoners safe and the authority to ensure it, but did not.
But there is another factor that I did not really discuss earlier.
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It has everything to do with the way the military recruits. It is its strength, and its Achilles' Heel at the same time.
The military is the one institution that recruits almost solely on potential. The military will give anyone a chance. The greatest restriction on achievement is you and you alone. Sure, you might be barred from some jobs on your initial entry due to an insufficient ASVAB (aptitude test given by the military) score, but once you are in, a good performer can usually cross-train/transfer into almost any occupation.
Every other institution that I can think of accepts you only the basis of prior achievement. You must have done something good to get the top opportunities. You must have earned a college degree or had good work experience to get the best jobs. In the civilian world, choices you make before the age of 20 might already close off the paths to becoming the CEO of a large company, or a President.
But the lowliest recruit driving a truck can eventually become a 4-star General (and that sort of things has happened!). The military cares about what you can do, not what you did.
In high school, I was the perfect college candidate. I was a National Merit Scholarship Winner, and of the higher dollar total, meaning one of less than 1,000 people graduating that year in the entire nation. I had made the All-Northwest Choir, and All-State Band. I had won Academic Olympic Contests, Led a team to the All-Northwest Problem Solving Bowl, and won math contests.
I could have gotten into nearly any college on a full scholarship. The world was my oyster.
Five years later, I had already failed at life. Absolutely failed.
I had dropped out of college without a degree, worked for 9 months as a restaurant Assistant Manager to mediocre levels of accomplishment, and worked 6 months as a salesman who could sell anything.
I had no degree, little work experience, and no resume to speak of. Who would have hired me? Who would have cared about my mind, in light of my demonstrated lack of ability to accomplish anything?
The Army. They gave me one of the most difficult and challenging job assignments they had.
It was an uncomfortable fit. I got in all sorts of trouble my first year. To this day, I still think my sergeant singled me out for extra abuse. But then, it worked: I developed a stronger sense of responsibility, and honed the edge of mental sharpness and discipline. With the help of demanding superiors, I strengthened my character.
I hated the Army, and nearly got out. But in the last year of a 5-year contract, I started growing into it. Sure, maybe it was the fear of getting out with no degree, and seeing other colleagues not getting fat contracts when they got out. Maybe the chain of command started courting me for re-enlistment because they wanted to keep their re-enlistment rates up. Dunno. I do know I started to enjoy being in the military. I started to care about my co-workers. I started to become proud of how much military life sucked, about how much I gave up to stay in.
I re-enlisted. The Army gave me a semester off to go to school, and paid for it. I changed my major and did 54 college semester-hours in less than 10 months to finish up my degree. I took that degree and applied for the USAF Officer's school. I've had a decent career thus far, and Lt. Col. is well-within my grasp, and even a "full bird" Colonel isn't impossible. From there, the right place at the right time could mean putting on a star.
Why?
Because the military doesn't care about what you did before. The military only cares about accomplishing the mission and being a team. As long as you continue to improve/educate yourself and accomplish the mission, you will be promoted (but you are usually not allowed to stagnate: up or out, for the most part), and you will remain a part of the team.
What does all this have to do with the abuse of prisoners in Iraq?
Well, not everyone is a success story. Not everyone develops good character. Some people never rise to the challenges and are not allowed to re-enlist. Few are kicked out, because there is always some job you can accomplish, even if it is taking out the trash so others can concentrate that much more on their jobs. Some are allowed to re-enlist, but do not rise about the junior NCO-level, and that is often because of a lack of discipline or minor character flaw. There are people who work fine with good supervision, but if left alone, will go astray. They are fine for battle, they are fine for peacetime, they are fine for military service in general...but the first time they lack the proper supervision, the first time they have an extended period of being left to their own devices, the character flaws and lack of discipline show themselves.
I think that is a large part of what happened here.
Their true character became apparent in the environment created by the intersection of high stress and lack of supervision. They continued to demonstrate the lack of character in their denials of responsibility, in leaking the photos to try to poison the well that might lead to their conviction. Instead of showing military responsibility and intestinal fortitude to accept their responsibility and take their punishment, they choose to cover their butts. But then, if they had the moral courage to do that, they would have had the moral courage to stand up and stop the abuses in the first place.
And then, this comes around again to the leadership. The General and her Lt Col subordinate have been pointing fingers at anyone but themselves. They sicken me with their lack of military bearing and responsibility. I am disappointed that they could rise to such high levels without having had the mettle of their character tested before, but the military is still a bureaucracy, and this happens in the military in peacetime.
I'm reminded of Heinlein's Starship Troopers, during the training portion, in which a recruit hits a sergeant. The recruit is punished, because he must be in order to maintain "good order and discipline", because you cannot allow a recruit to hit a superior and get away with it...but the commander blamed the sergeant for allowing the recruit to actually hit him. That applies in this case: The General is absolutely a dirtbag in the way she's tried to shift blame to protect herself. But her worst crime was not providing the proper supervision to prevent this. The soldiers who did this should be convicted and jailed. If the extent of the abuse is as bad as I fear, those responsible should face the possibility of execution. But every single violation these soldiers did should be laid at her feet. If properly supervised, this would never have happened. She failed them. The entire chain of command failed the soldiers.
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Agreed on all points.
Very nicely said.
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zombyboy on May 13, 2004 08:58 PM
You know, Nathan, I'd been wondering about that. I recognized Karpinski's name from having read about her in a different context a decade ago. When she was interviewed on CNN, she said something like, "Well, I do accept the responsibility, in that I was ultimately the officer in charge, but the blame? No." I thought, Wow. Where can I get a job that let's you flim-flam like that?
But I also wondered...it sounds as if there were a bunch of different offices/agencies/power centers involved in prison administration. I'm not saying that she shouldn't go down for not doing her job, but the way things are described on the news, it's hard (given that I'm not in the army, let alone in Iraq) to assess how much real authority she had.
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Sean Kinsell on May 13, 2004 09:32 PM
Very nicely said...one of the things that has troubled me my whole life is overhearing two male classmates scheme to drop out, and when another classmate said "what will you do with your life?" we learned that they had already been ok'd to enter the marines. And, into the Marines they went.
I had taken the ASVAB and knew they weren't in that group from my school that tested..."career military" is not something they had planned in their lives. They just saw it as an easy way out (boy, I bet they were in for a surprise).
I am sure they didn't make it very far at all...on the other hand, a person who I took the ASVAB with (and had dated off and on in that high school way and was a very good pal) did become career military. (along those lines, I think he's really pissed at me over my war opposition and not speaking to me, but hopefully one day he'll come around.)
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Jo on May 14, 2004 07:35 AM
Sean,
I suppose it is possible she was cut off at the knees, authoritarily speaking (yeah, I made that up...so what?), and prevented from knowing what was going on there...but I doubt it.
That star on your lapel gives you an extreme amount of authority. You can wear whatever uniform you want. You can take and give rank to lower-level officers, not to mention enlisted. You answer to pretty much only 4 people above you: the Theater Commander, the Secretary of your branch, the SecDef, and the President...well, not exactly, but pretty much.
People freak out and stumble all over themselves when a Lt Col visits. You wouldn't believe the lengths people go to make a Colonel happy when he stops by. A General very nearly has the power of life and death over their charges. She didn't do her job.
...but I admit I'm not a general, so maybe I'm not totally correct.
Jo,
...or maybe one day you'll come around...?
The higher you go in the military, the higher the standards are. A "star" performer at one level is expected to increase their accomplishments as they go. What is impressive in an E-3 doesn't even meet the standard in an E-5. Those two guys looking for the easy way out probably lacked the discipline and responsibility to succeed in the long-term, but could still be good Marines for one enlistment. And it was still worth the gamble to the Marines to let 'em try.
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Nathan on May 14, 2004 01:47 PM
I should have clarified- what I meant was "maybe he'll come around to being my friend again". My door is still open.
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THANKS FOR THAT VIDEO. ITS SO SAD. I CRIED
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Putting things in perspective...
At least, that's the only conclusion that can be made from watching the "non-" liberal news media fall all over themselves in their haste to publicize photographs of US servicemembers abusing prisoners, and yet minimize any publicity of Nick Berg's execution.
Heck, where are all the people who were saying we should show coffins of US soldiers? Shouldn't they at least be urging the "non-" liberal news media to show the execution with the more graphic parts blurred?
I'm guessing we won't see that happen. It is becoming more and more difficult to deny that the left is cold-bloodedly attempting to manipulate coverage of the deaths of Americans for political gain.
Here's a deeper look at the issue. Take a look.
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I hadn't seen this meme yet. But I like it.
So. What are the top ten things I know more about than is probably healthy (in no particular order)?
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Chinese Language, Society, and History
Pre-WWII Military Surplus Bolt-Action Rifles
Music Theory
Armchair Human Psychology
Armchair Theology
Styx (don't ask)
1st Edition AD&D
Speculative Fiction (specifically: early Heinlein, Larry Niven, CJ Cherryh, Terry Pratchett, Steven Brust, Barbara Hambly, Lois McMasters Bujold...)
Cats (the animal, not The Musical!)
Axis & Allies
You can challenge me on any of these, if you wish...
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Nate,
I'd challenge you on 1st Edition AD&D...but I think you and I only played 2nd Edition AD&D together, right? ;)
By the way...why did they eliminate the monk from 2nd Edition AD&D, only to bring the class back in the 3rd Edition? I think it must have been part of some vast left-wing media conspiracy... :p
Dalin
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Styx: I liked the band, especially "Lady" and "Snow Blind".
Hamby: Didn't she write one of the follow up stories in the Star Wars saga?
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Madfish Willie on May 13, 2004 08:33 AM
Yes, she did, and I'm sure it was excellent...but I've avoided the post-Return of the Jedi novels like the plague.
I like her other stuff. She does horror-tinged fantasy as well as anyone else out there, and better than most. I don't think she's gotten the exposure she deserves, frankly.
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Nathan on May 13, 2004 08:37 AM
C'mon, Dalin...there is no left- wing conspiracies! Because the New York Times, CNN, CNBC, Air America, Michael Moore, Time Magazine, Dan Rather...they are all Centrists. Remember: if an unproven assertion is made that makes Republicans or conservatives look bad, it is merely the truth that has been suppressed by the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy groups, but if something happens that might make liberals or Democrats look bad, it must be merely fabricated/falsified by the same VR-WC groups, because Democrats/liberals are as pure as the driven snow.
Armed with this new knowledge, you can be sure that every election in which a Republican gets more than 50% of the vote, is also the result of a Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy. So vast that it is more than 50% of the given population, to be sure, but a Conspiracy nontheless. And let us not forget that the root-word of Conspiracy is Piracy, which proves that Republicans have stolen every single election they have won.
...hmmm. I must stop channeling trolls. It makes me feel stupid and dirty.
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Sheesh! And I thought I was just making an "in" joke about AD&D, while trying to keep it pseudo-relevant to recent posts.
BTW, are those 1st Edition AD&D or 2nd Edition AD&D trolls you're channeling? (;
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I appreciate all the well-wishes. It warms my heart to see the out-pouring of good will...
...however, I do want to clarify: I'm so far behind the front lines, I'm in virtually no danger. I'm probably in more danger during my morning commute back home than I am here.
They take pretty good care of us: internet access, video games, movies, activities, hot food, air-conditioned rooms, decent coffee...they even have a Pizza Hut, Subway, Baskin Robbins, and several coffee/espresso huts around.
The last time I was here (just a few scant months ago...!), we still lived in tents with only a sheet separating you from your tent-mates, no way to turn on the light without disturbing someone sleeping on another shift, and only about 40 sq ft of personal space.
Now it's more like 100 sq feet in a private room. Definitely a step up!
I will never encounter or even see the enemy. I am in no danger whatsoever. I am a part of the military machine, but I'm several inches back from the point of the spear. I am support.
I am proud of what I do, and I do it darn well, and I have a significant role in keeping some of our pilots safe. But there really is no need to worry about me.
...now my next assignment (I'll find out what it is within about 6 months) might be different. We'll see. And "here's hoping!" [grin]
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Yes, but as your mother always said, "I feel better telling you to be careful." :)
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You were pretty dang quick on the draw, there, Rae! "Rae: Fastest Blog in the West", eh?
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Nathan on May 12, 2004 09:28 PM
That thar's right, Mr. Nathan. I like to "call myself Oakley, Annie Oakley, after yonder whistle stop."
No, really, I just happen to have stopped by at just the right moment.
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Nate,
Thoughts and prayers float your direction, buddy. Keep safe and come home soon.
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Ditto.
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Good luck Nathan. Be careful please.
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Yes, Nathan, my prayers and thoughts are there with you.
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Please let us know if there is some way that we can support you or your family.
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In honor of Mother's Day, I thought I'd link the excellent discussion going on in this post, and excerpt the two most salient comments:
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Dean Esmay:
It's sad to me that, in 2004, we still have people speaking of this as if it's a "woman's issue" and still talking as if this is about women being beaten and killed as the primary problem.
Of course, some do this out of genuine misinunderstanding. But some do it becuase, frankly, they are faux-feminists with a vested interest in perpetuating those stereotypes because it gives them political and, in many cases, financial power to do so.
We know now that women are guilty of an equal rate of spousal assaults as men. We also know that women commit the majority of severe child abuse and the majority of child homicides, and about a quarter of child sexual molestations, as well as a large proportion of elder abuse. We also know that women are far more likely to get away verbal assaults, or even be encouraged in such behavior.
The failure of women to take responsibility for their own violent and dysfunctinal behavior by blaming men or "patriarchal society" and suchlike only contributes to the fact that domestic violence continues to be a serious problem. We are still, unfortunately, blaming the victim--which is as often the man as the woman, but which most people are still too afraid to acknowledge.
Richard Bennett:
Interesting discussion here, and I see that both sides are well-represented. I used to deal with this issue as a part-time lobbyist, and I've had the good fortune of discussing it with some of the leading researchers and advocates in the field, on both sides the of the issue, including Cathy Young, who's been writing about it for several years.
The main problem with DV laws as they stand today is just what Cathy says it is: the "one size fits all" approach. Research tells us that DV sorts out into three categories: somewhat less than 25% of the time, the man is the sole aggressor; a little more than 25% of the time, the female is the sole aggressor; and about half the time the violence is mutual.
So it stands to reason that a comprehensive approach to reducing violence would identify the dynamics and treat them appropriately, right? Which would mean that about as many women as men would be arrested and treated in the DV re-education programs, and that half the time an arrest is made, both parties would be arrested, right? After all, they've both broken the law, and the law's the law.
But this isn't what happens. In many states, there is a statutory prohibition against mutual arrest, and the cops are directed to arrest the "greater aggressor", which in most cases is judged by the cops, on the basis of their training, to be the male.
Now how well do you suppose the re-education camp works on the typical male who's either not an aggressor or one of two mutual aggressors? Bear in mind that he has to stand up and declare that the whole mess is all his fault or he's expelled from the class and made to start all over again, paying around $50 a week for 52 weeks or so to avoid more jail time.
And then there's the interesting question of the "overlap" between spousal violence and child abuse. Mothers in violent relationships, whether we judge them aggressors or victims, are ten times more likely than normal mothers to abuse their children, and are even more of a threat to children than the men. When the man is arrested, the abusive mother has free rein to abuse the children without any fear of retribution on the man's part, and this happens, a lot.
We don't have mandatory arrest laws, or one person arrest laws, in child abuse cases, where mothers are by far the most typical perpetrators. So why do we need them in cases of spousal abuse?
I think you can work that out for yourselves, but here's a clue: women's groups lobby the hell out of the legislature on these laws (and the related issues of child support, custody, community property, and alimony) while men have, at best, a token volunteer lobbyist when he can take the day off work.
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Dean's data is grossly inaccurate:
Intimate Partner Violence: 1993-2001
From the opening paragraph:
According to estimates from the
National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS), there were 691,710 nonfatal violent victimizations committed by current or former spouses, boyfriends, or girlfriends of the victims during 2001 (table 1). Such crimes — intimate partner violence — primarily involve female victims. About 588,490, or 85% of victimizations by intimate partners in 2001 were against women.
Intimate partner violence made up 20% of violent crime against women in 2001. By contrast, during the year intimate partners committed 3% of all
nonfatal violence against men. (See Criminal Victimization 2001, Changes 2000-01, with Trends 1993-2001, NCJ 194610, for more information on victim/offender relationship.)I eagerly await the conspiracy theory that will be used to explain this discrepancy.
By the way, smashing Mother's Day topic.
posted by
ilyka on May 10, 2004 03:43 AM
while it is true most child homocides are perpretrated by women, (app. 5% increase over men)...something in the neighborhood of 80% of those are considered "medical neglect". Considering the high rate of single moms and even married mothers being considered the primary "caregiver", this is something that should be taken into consideration when looking at these kinds of stats. FWIW...
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Jo on May 10, 2004 08:16 AM
Apologies, Jo--I ought to have made it clear that I was responding specifically to this statement:
We know now that women are guilty of an equal rate of spousal assaults as men.
Because we don't "know" any such thing. That line graph (see link above) would look one hell of a lot different if we did.
For the record, I don't, obviously, condone child abuse, whether by neglect or by malice. That subject, however, was not the topic originally under discussion at either Protein Wisdom or Snooze Button Dreams.
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ilyka on May 10, 2004 08:50 AM
ilyka, I appreciated your stats, I think it was important that you posted what you did. Thank you. :)
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Jo on May 10, 2004 09:00 AM
WTF???? Mother's day posting??? Cut it out!
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cutters on May 10, 2004 08:44 PM
How about this fertilizer website?
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I'm adding Iron Blog to the blogroll because I can't resist. It might be a fricken train wreck, but it should be lotsa fun to watch!
Thanks, Deb, for the general announcement.
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Thanks to Kevin for calling my attention to this piece by Kevin Paul. A different Kevin, I mean.
My first thought was: Maybe they should do another study to find out what erroneous views are held by watchers of other news outlets; for instance, that these other viewers might believe no evidence of WMD was found in Iraq (wrong: evidence abounds...it's just that a definitive presence has not been established), that there is absolutely no connection between Iraq and terror (again, wrong: evidence abounds...it's just that a definitive connection between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden has never been established, nor does it need to, because Saddam's connections to international terror organizations is undeniable; it's a media red herring to keep mentioning no connection has been drawn from Saddam to 9/11: no one is even looking!). So why doesn't someone look into the views of the average CNBC viewer?
UPDATE: Thanks to all the losers and trolls who have stopped by to leave totally stupid and immature comments. If your comment doesn't pass a 'basic intelligence' test, it will be edited. Using any sort of profanity in your comment is sure to get me to edit it, and the results won't make you look good.
Instead of spewing stupidity, why not try actually thinking for once? I know that's very difficult for liberal brats like you, and liberals tend to avoid difficult things, but you could do it if you tried.
Fact: Clear connections between Saddam and terror, including clear connnections between Saddam and Al Qaeda. Anyone who willfully refuses to recognize those facts will earn nothing but derision.
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Well, it's on that other Kevin's blog but the post was by Paul.
posted by
McGehee on May 9, 2004 11:21 AM
Oops. Heheh, yeah, you make that clear...it's just that Wizbang=Kevin in my mind, still.
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Nathan on May 9, 2004 03:33 PM
I don't have anything worthwhile to say.
posted by
Whackly on July 21, 2005 08:36 AM
Yeah, i'm sure that there's plenty of evidence, but MoveOn, George Soros, etc just like looking like idiots for ignoring clear of 'evidence', since the traitorous press that sides with terrorists won't show the truth.
Maybe liberal idiots will grow a brain someday...but I doubt it.
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Hot Carl on July 21, 2005 08:57 AM
Anyone who doesn't recognize that there is a clear connection between Saddam Hussein and terror is a complete idiot and a total oxygen thief.
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whackly on July 22, 2005 07:18 AM
also... "whackly" is not a word
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Ah, Mother's Day! Today is the day that we give our Moms breakfast in bed, take them out to brunch, buy them jewelry, or nice clothes, let them have the entire day off...whatever we can think of to indulge our maternal figures.
And appease them, I'm thinking.
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See, compare and contrast with Father's Day. You get Dad cordless drills, barbecue equipment, maybe a weight set.
Can you imagine the guilt trip you wife/mother would lay on you if all you got her for Mother's Day was a vacuum cleaner, some pots, and a thighmaster? The pain would be unbearable. For you.
It comes down to the same old thing: Guys do what they need to, fulfill their responsibilities, do their job, and without much thanks or appreciation. When they return home, they are expected to do 100% of the nasty, heavy, tiring jobs (because that's Man's work yanno), and still do 50% of the rest of the work, because a man who doesn't do 50% of what women consider to be women's work is just scum. Oh, and since women overestimate their own contribution and underestimate their husband's efforts (that's been pretty much proven), the guy has to do about 60% of the work just to be considered breaking even.
And we reward him on Father's Day (if we even notice or remember) with tools to do more work.
Women go through 9 months of pregnancy and something less than 48 hours of labor. Hey, it surely isn't comfortable in the 9th month, no. But if you talk to any mother, she acts like the day she conceived she was carrying 30 pounds of baby and 50 pounds of water weight within hours, giving her nine months of absolute hell and filling her with such rage that we must, like savages appeasing the volcano God, offer her up tasty morsels and treasure at least once a year* to ensure that she doesn't explode, wreaking destruction and pain on all around her.
[on a side note, someone once asked if one ever wreaks anything but havoc. I think we've shown here, today, that "havoc" isn't automatically "wreaked")
But, honestly folks!, if every year some teen somewhere gives birth to an 8-month old baby at a prom without even having known she was pregnant, how tough can it really be?!??! ...maybe it's all anticipatory fear? Dunno.
All I can really say is women got a nice scam going, and applaud their puissance in manipulation. Oh, and "Happy Mother's Day!"
(*I say "at least once a year", but obviously, women need constant appeasing: don't try to give her toaster oven on Christmas, her birthday, or her wedding anniversary, either)
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Ah, Nathan! I see that liquid super-armor you ordered has finally arrived!
(tee hee)
All my best,
Fran
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Francis W. Porretto on May 9, 2004 09:35 AM
Nah, that won't get here until Father's Day. Cuz it's work-related, yanno? [grin]
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Nathan on May 9, 2004 10:10 AM
I look at it this way: Men make a hobby of things they no longer have to do for survival. Things like working with wood, or automotive tinkering, even hunting or fishing for their dinners. When one makes a hobby of something it ceases to be a "chore."
I have yet to meet a woman who has made a hobby of vacuuming or toilet cleaning. Cooking, on the other hand... Well, let me say that the way into my heart is a heavy guage stainless steel 6 inch deep roaster without that damned non-stick interior. I'd follow someone home on the promise of that... *sigh* But just try to accomplish Mommilial Appeasement with anything less, and you're asking for trouble.
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Mamamontezz on May 9, 2004 12:14 PM
Nice insight, there, Mama. I'm not going to correct the piece, tho, because it was mainly snark for humorous effect...
...but I'll admit that you are probably 99% correct.
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Nathan on May 9, 2004 03:35 PM
Yeah, I'm with Mama on that one. I'll take a KitchenAid mixer or some Calphalon (series II professional) anyday!
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maura on May 9, 2004 08:27 PM
Mmmmm...Kitchen Aid....Mmmmm....
posted by
Mamamontezz on May 11, 2004 08:43 AM
Hmmm, I am a little slow on the uptake, sorry.
I would love an appliance, but in truth, would scoff at the thighmaster, unless I requested it. I asked for free weights last year.
In our house, each is given the same treatment: sleeping until choosing to be awake; choice of all meals; gifts and special dessert. Whatever the one wants, the other makes happen.
It just so happens that my R enjoys getting tools, but that's because he likes using them in whatever capacity they can be used-fixing something around the house, rebuilding an engine, etc. If I gave him a book, he would like it, but he would prefer something that he can exert some physical energy to use (a little sweat, you know).
I am thinking that maybe a note with a few choices for your wife to choose from (no tools on the list) may present you with a more enjoyable day. Unless I took the whole post wrong and this was all tongue-in-cheek?
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Okayfine. I guess I have no problem with that... The abuse of the prisoners in Iraq was a pretty horrific thing.
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Accountability and responsibility are funny things, I guess. I mean, some people blame President Bush for 9/11. Like him, I think there were Muslim Extremist members of Al Qaida actually holding the boxcutters, and I don't think they were acting under President Bush's orders. Heck, President Clinton blamed Conservative Talk Radio for the Oklahoma City Federal Building bombing. John Ashcroft is being blamed for jack-booted thugs trampling on civil rights across the nation, despite a conspicuous absence of jack-booted thugs...and I have no idea what these same blamers think of the Branch Davidian Compound in Waco, or they feel was responsible for that. Probably President Bush, I guess. Or a Republican somwehere, if they can manage it.
In any case, I have no problem with the Brigadier General in charge of the prison to be held responsible and removed from her position in the aftermath. You could as easily insist that only the people who actually did anything were responsible, and you can't blame the General any more (or any less, perhaps), than President Bush for 9/11.
Except that doesn't fly with me. There are tiers of responsibility, particularly in the military, but also in society. If a product doesn't ship on time, is it the fault of the person who boxed too slowly? The manager who failed to notice the person boxed too slowly? The CEO?
See, at some point, there is someone who is given full responsibility for making sure the product is shipped. That responsibility is a portion of the entire responsibility held by the CEO and/or President and/or owner and/or board of directors (can you tell I don't know much about business?). But since the guy at the top can't see/know/do it all, he shares in part of the responsibility, but at some point the main responsibility falls on the person who he gave the responsibility and authority to, who is also the person who accepted this responsibility.
In the military (something I do know), there are specific tiers of leadership, as well. Junior enlisted have little responsibility, junior non-commissioned officers (sergeants) have a little bit more, senior NCOs still more. One of the reasons even a 2nd Lt can make more than some senior NCOs (depending on time in service), is because even the lowest officer is held to a higher level of responsibility. It's his job to make sure his taskings are accomplished, but the junior NCOs will probably supervise/guide the junior enlisted with advice/support/expertise from the senior NCOs in accordance to the direction established by the officer. Company-Grade officers (Lts and Capts) have a certain level of responsibility, usually for a company-sized unit (up to 100+ people. Usually) Field-Grade officers (Majors and Colonels) have higher levels of responsibility, but also higher levels of authority. They can step in and make life miserable for any Company-Grade Officer that is not doing their job. General/Flag officers can do the same to Field-Grade Officers.
That's why some people never make it past Lt Colonel. They are considered to lack the "stuff" that would earn them the position in which they have total control and total responsibility and total authority over a full unit (Like a Division, Wing, etc). For the most part, General/Flag officers are told what the effect/position their unit needs to accomplish, and they are allowed to do whatever is necessary, within reason, to accomplish that objective. As long as the objective is accomplished without abnormal casualties or abysmal morale, no one jogs their elbow or looks over their shoulder. For the first time in your career, you are fully and absolutely judged solely by the accomplishments of the unit under your watch.
That is the authority and responsibility granted to by the President through the Secretary of Defense through the branch secretary through the Senior Military Leader of that branch. You accept that responsibility.
That's why the General in question is responsible. By accepting the star and taking the position, she was accepting that it absolutely was her job to know what was going on in the prison. Particularly since the opportunity for such abuse was quite available.
But President Bush and the Honorable Mr. Rumsfeld, while they can apologize for the poor judgment in appointing the people who appointed her, should not be held fully responsible because they had delegated the responsbility and authority to her, and while she could further delegate aspects of the responsibility, the authority of a General Officer could not be delegated any lower. Thus, while she should not get jail time for these horrendous acts because she didn't take part in them, she should lose her position, her rank, and probably her retirement because she did not fulfill her responsibility to any acceptable degree.
She failed, and failed badly. She failed her superiors, she failed her subordinates (who also failed her), but most of all, she failed those in her charge. Nice quotes notwithstanding, "the buck" stopped with her, and she knew it.
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..exactly... Leaders should be leading... she was not...
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Here is a great discussion about the 5.56mm and its drawbacks. I was already against it, but reading this taught me a few things:
(click "next comment" to follow the entire discussion)
This is a little dryer and more academic, but discusses why the 7.62x51 NATO (.308 Winchester) is what we need:
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There are some people to whom "Supporting the Troops" means the US Military can do no wrong. Others to whom Bill Clinton can do no wrong. Some people think Rush Limbaugh is entertaining. Other people don't recognize Washington's Senators (Murray and Cantwell) are absolutely useless idiots. Heck, some people actually trust what Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton say, and Dan Quayle actually got support in his campaign for President in the 1996 primaries. For that matter, some people still defend communism as a good idea.
America: Freedom to be an idiot.
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According to Kevin, Mr. bin Laden is still making regular visits:
20 United States
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2 Italy
2 Sweden
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2 Hungary
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1 Uganda
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...one time zone at a time. I'm up to "16 Zones" people! Yep, fully 2/3 of the world is paying attention to my blog:
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That's because your writing is timeless, Nathan ;)
posted by
Rae on May 8, 2004 07:59 PM
[blushes]
Aw, shucks, Ma'am.
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Emily asks a good question. Here's my answer:
Free speech should be the expression of a free mind. Thus, I think the guarantee to free speech should be limited to being able to express your religion, political view, and criticisms of government and religious leaders without fear of censure or censor.
That's it. Other speech need not be regulated, necessarily, but I think there is no compelling argument to guarantee the right to yell "fire" in a crowded theater, or to stand outside an elementary school shouting profanity, or to sell pornography.
I'd really prefer we started considering our rights in light of whether or not it contributes to a strong and safe nation, rather than just being dependent on what you want to do without interference....
...but that's just me. And that's why I don't agree with Libertarians.
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The "right" to free speech, like any other "right" is not granted by governments, or any other man made entity. It is part of the God-given right of liberty (as expressed by Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence). One of the biggest mistakes made in discussing the 1st Amendment is that anybody who tells you to shut up is denying you your right to free speech. According to the 1st Amendment, "Congress shall make no law" preventing free speech, organization of religion, peaceful assembly, etc. If you were to delete this post, you would not be infringing my freedom of speech. Rather, you would be exercising your own freedom to print whatever you feel like. Turning to the issue of the FCC and censorship, if the FCC didn't exist, and broadcast stations were free to censor their content based on the opinions of the owners and the audience, there wouldn't be as much brouhaha over media censorship. However, when the beaurocricy steps in and an organization is created by the Federal Government that has the power to censor, then problems arise. In essence, the FCC is unconstitutional because it was created (or at least approved) by Congress. Strict Constitutionalists won't exactly see it this way because there is no actual law on the books prohibiting certain types of speech to appear in broadcast form, but the idea of a government approved and (most importantly) federally funded organization overseeing what we can hear/watch/read would have appalled the Founders. The bottom line is that it is the responsibility of the people to deem what is acceptable. No one is forcing you to listen to Howard Stern or to read Hustler. If someone argues "what about the children?" simply tell them to "keep an eye on yours, I'll watch mine." U.S. currency used to carry the slogan "Mind Your Business". Not such a bad idea when it comes down to it.
posted by
Francis on May 7, 2004 05:25 PM
I've never been satisfied with the "if you don't like Howard Stern, don't watch", if you are offended by that image on your TV, turn it off" line of reasoning, because the Superbowl this year shows how you can be minding your own business and someone does something with so little warning you have no chance to turn it off.
...and it's not so much me being offended as not wanting to have to control every minute of my children's lives in order to allow them to live a little longer in a child's world instead of being forced to deal with adult issues before the proper time.
At what point does "minding my own business" need to get pre-emptive, I guess I'm asking. At what point do I have to start expecting that driving down the street means my child will be exposed to nudity and pornography?
At what point do I have to avoid whole city streets so my kids don't have to look at a billboard of the Barbie Twins wearing less than a square foot of cloth between them?
There used to be a thing called "standards". It had nothing to do with rights, per se, but it recognized that what might be okay for you might not be okay for everyone, so you defaulted to the least offensive, most mature, most safe, least titillating level. Now everyone is scrambling and clawing to express themselves in whatever manner they choose, no matter how foul.
At what point do I have to act because with my windows rolled up and a Blue's Clues CD playing, I can't hear it over the thumping bass and crude lyrics of the car next to us at the stop light?
So "rights" may be natural. "Rights" might not have to be granted by a government...but they do have to be recognized, because too many governments have not recognized them. Since copulating with a goat in front of an elementary school could conceivably be considered an expression of religious sentiment, we need to recognize that "rights" do not to be continually expanded and redefined upward: that way lies anarchy. It might work if everyone had the same idea of consideration. Obviously, we don't.
Thus, a libertarian view that says, "do what you want, just don't affect me and/or my property" will inexorably lead to a society in which might makes right, in which "affects me and/or my property" is defined differently by different people, and backed up with violence. That way is a slippery slope to anarchy.
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So why do you think there are so many Christians in the military?
I have my ideas, but I want to hear what you people think before I share my musings.
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I'll give you a hint on my opinion: I'm not surprised that mid-career officers seem to have the highest percentage of Christians...
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I didn't know this was a measured metric in the Military. I thought this fell under "Don't Ask, Don't tell."
Most of the members of the military that I know (except for 2 in my local church) were all athiests; not that I doubt your claim. There is always the famous quote: "There are no atheists in foxholes."
So what is your theory? I'm very interested.
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Great stuff from Dawn Eden on Curves and more on Planned Pregnancy.
The best part?
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This caveat:
[Please be aware: This entry contains graphic sexual language, taken from a Planned Parenthood teen Web site.].
Yeah, ya gotta warn people against the language on a publicly-funded website. First PBS and NPR, then the National Endowment for Arts, and now this. Well, not now, per se, cuz it's been going on for years. But when do we get government funding for socially-conservative, non-leftist views?
Oh, never. That's right. Thanks, Democrat Party!
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Thanks so much for directing people to my blog entry.
Believe it or not, I was actually going to correct you on your calling the Planned Parenthood Web site's "publicly funded," but a precautionary Web search turned up a press release citing a GAO report that changed my mind. I don't know if all those hundreds of millions of dollars in government grants specifically fund the Web site, but they sure give Planned Parenthood freedom to spend extra money on publicity.
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Dawn Eden on May 6, 2004 10:35 PM
I admit it's questionable...
...but to me, if a group gets direct funding from the government, then it is at least a partially-public funded enterprise.
I haven't seen, nor looked for, any breakdown of funding sources. I sincerely doubt, however, that liberal Democrats could fail to divert tax dollars towards something that embodies so much of their ideal of government-influenced erosion of Christian/moral values.
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...well, not this gun, specifically.
A friend of mine who owns a pawnshop picked up a Century Arms R1A1 and is selling it to me for $350. A gunsmith who is a friend of his says it is well-made and doesn't seem to have the quality-control problems the earlier Century Arms FAL-clones had. It's a little bit of a gamble, but we'll see...if it is as good as it seems, I got the rifle for about $180 under the going rate, and I'm quite excited about it. Reasonable accuracy, excellent reliability, great range (it's chambered in .308). I can't wait to get it out to the range. I've got it on lay-away, however, and won't take possession until August, probably.
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Oh, man, feeling jealousy...
I always wanted a real live FN FAL.
Would it be impolite to ask what the going rate is for the clone?
posted by
zombyboy on May 6, 2004 03:59 PM
Not impolite at all!
I've heard people quote about $550, and there's one for sale at Gunbroker and do a search for "R1A1" and the only thing that comes up is an R1A1 sporter for $569. They're butt-ugly and have a bad reputation. Then if you put in "L1A1", you get a wider range of results, but they all still have that "thumb-hole" stock that signifies an older copy, when they still had more quality control problems. They even look cheesy in the picture...
A real FN-FAL will cost you moore than $1000, maybe close to $2000, and you won't be able to get full-auto, obviously...although everything I've heard, you don't want full auto, because the barrel is too light (will overheat and temporarily warp) and the recoil is too harsh for any kind of control on full-auto...
The better mil-surplus FALs (like an actual British, Canadian, or Aussie surplus L1A1) will probably cost you between $800-1200, if you can find one. I haven't seen one lately...
I'm getting mine for just $350... Of course, we've become friends because I've given him LOTS of business over the last year, too, so...[shrug]. After I get it, if it fires well and you ever get in the area, we'll go shooting.
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Nathan on May 6, 2004 08:04 PM
I recently purchased a R1A1. Last sunday I took it to the range. It was already zeroed in.After setting the gas port it performed without a hitch. I shot from 100 to 600 yards with the only problem being at 600 yards I had to cover the target with the sight halfway. I was using surplus 150 grain FMJs. At $5.00 for 20 rounds this is pretty good because brass costs that much anyway. I was worried about mine also because I also picked mine up at a real good price.So good I thought something must be wrong.The rifle is very user friendly, accurate and the 308 round speaks for itself. Have fun!
posted by
Larry on October 19, 2004 07:06 PM
I have! I'll be doing handloads for it soon, after I run thru the 1000 rounds of Indian .308 ammo I have.
posted by
Nathan on October 20, 2004 01:42 AM
I just bought a CAI R1A1 sporter and would like to put some new synthetic furniture on it. I'm pretty sure it's an "inch type pattern" but it works well with metric mags. How do I know if it's inch type or metric and will L1A1 furniture fit?
posted by
Jim Skinner on January 10, 2005 05:59 AM
My buddy just aquired a "L1A1". Every part seems to be stamped with some number or letter or both. The components look like stamped metal and the reciever looks decent. The stock/forend is very cheap plastic and some of the screws on the grip have a square slot. The only writing on it pretty much is "made in Canada". Is this a piece of crap or what?? Lay some knowledge on me please!!!
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KSD on April 26, 2005 07:32 PM
KSD,
Look for a "CAI" stamp. That would mean that it was spare parts assembled by Century Arms International, rather than an actual factory-produced rifle.
But that still wouldn't mean it is crap. If it cycles fine, then it's a good gun. Reliable, reasonably accurate, hard-hitting. You wouldn't want to try to kill a moose or elk at 500 yards with it, say, but it's far better than an AK-47 for power and accuracy.
The only thing is, there are different rifles you can get that function identically for half the priced, like a VEPR...the price on a FN-FAL-clone R1A1/L1A1 is due to its coolness factor. This was called "the Right Arm of Freedom" for a good reason: it was used by all sorts of western powers in conflicts around the world.
In the final analysis, though (and a hard lesson to learn; I've just recently understood it): is he happy with the price he paid for it? If so, then it was a good deal.
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Nathan on April 26, 2005 07:39 PM
I bought a R1A1 Sporter and it has a problem
ejecting the 308 spent shell. I bought it new
from a dealer. Someone please tell me some things
to check. The reciever is stamped Georgia Vt.
could it be the gas adjustment?
posted by
gloria on May 14, 2005 10:42 PM
That would be the first thing to try.
You are supposed to set the gas adjustment by first opening it all the way up (no gas gets to the piston, so it doesn't cycle at all), then with each shot, close the valve one step until you get it to the point where it cycles okay. My guess is that should be in the 4-6 range, but what do I know?
You don't want any more gas than is necessary to work the piston, so that's why you start from the bottom.
Let me know if it works.
If it doesn't, you may have to try different ammo, because some guns just like different brands...the worst-case scenario is you may need to get the chamber polished. I have no idea how much that costs, but it clears up that same problem in .308-converted MAS 29/56 rifles.
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Nathan on May 15, 2005 05:16 PM
I would also try it this way :
1) with rifle unloaded and on safe ( of course ! ) set gas to zero
2) load 1 round in magazine, insert mag and chamber round ( never ever feed by hand into the chamber as this does not allow the rifle to properly cycle )
3) fire .... there should be considerable recoil and the empty should fly out in the blue yonder about 5 meters to your right
4) now set gas to one ( 1 ) and repeat above. do this 3 or 4 more times. the empty cases should land closer as the gas port is opened further until at one point the rifle will not cycle anymore.
5) set gas one before the number at which it stops cycling ( i.e. if it stops on 6 set on 5 ). my L1A1 will work down to a "7" gas setting. Yours might differ.
Ammunition has a lot to do with the gas setting as well. The stuff at Walmart is too expensive and not suitable for use in military rifles. Save it for a bolt gun or a Walmart rifle. The best 7.62x51 out there are Australian and South African. The Argentine and Portuguese( FNM )ammo is okay albeit a bit innacurate. Stay away from the Indian ammo that Cheaperthandirt and places sell, it is dangerous garbage.
HTH,
graveman
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graveman on May 21, 2005 01:31 PM
By all means, check the gas port. Also, have a gunsmith check the head space and timing. That will drive you nuts, if you don't get it checked.
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...although I don't agree with his conclusions.
But you can see a down-n-dirty of my opinion in the comments.
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I'm making a pledge right now. Or promising an attempt to get 7000 words written on my novel within a certain time period.
Unfortunately, I can't really tell you what that time period is. At least, until after it's over. Just remember, when I come back triumphantly proclaiming success or despondently admitting failure, that it is absolutely related to this post.
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May 05, 2004
Google says I'm #10 when you put in the string Torture In Iraq.
So, "Welcome!", all you searchers that found me that way.
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So how many Iraqis did you torture?
[Just thought I'd get that one out of the way for you. -McGehee]
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Typical Search-String Visitor on May 6, 2004 05:07 PM
I don't know. I haven't determined how many of them read any of my puns...
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Wanna know more? There's lots of info easily available. Remember, every single person in the military gets at least exposed to this in basic training, then once again, annually, and then again before deploying. It is possible to slip through the cracks once, perhaps, but you would have to be deliberately avoiding this sort of education to miss out on it every single time.
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Here's a good link on the Laws that the soldiers violated in abusing the prisoners:
Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC).
So, sure, according to one principle, the prisoners were not entitled to "Enemy Prisoner of War" status:
Lawful Combatants. A lawful combatant is an individual authorized by governmental authority or the LOAC to engage in hostilities. A lawful combatant may be a member of a regular armed force or an irregular force. In either case, the lawful combatant must be commanded by a person responsible for subordinates; have fixed distinctive emblems recognizable at a distance, such as uniforms; carry arms openly; and conduct his or her combat operations according to the LOAC. The LOAC applies to lawful combatants who engage in the hostilities of armed conflict and provides combatant immunity for their lawful warlike acts during conflict, except for LOAC violations.
So they would fall under one of the following two statuses [statusi? statii? --ed.]:
Unlawful Combatants. Unlawful combatants are individuals who directly participate in hostilities without being authorized by governmental authority or under international law to do so. For example, bandits who rob and plunder and civilians who attack a downed airman are unlawful combatants. Unlawful combatants who engage in hostilities violate LOAC and become lawful targets. They may be killed or wounded and, if captured, may be tried as war criminals for their LOAC violations.
Undetermined Status. Should doubt exist as to whether an individual is a lawful combatant, noncombatant, or an unlawful combatant, such person shall be extended the protections of the Geneva Prisoner of War Convention until status is determined. The capturing nation must convene a competent tribunal to determine the detained person’s status.
Then there's this:
Article 17 of GPW provides that “[p]risoners of war who refuse to
answer may not be threatened, insulted, or exposed to any unpleasant or
disadvantageous treatment of any kind.” Torture is not permitted in the case of any detainee, regardless of that person’s status.174
Which came from this article from this Military Law page.
Keep in mind that in the United States, there is no Statue of Limitations, violating the Geneva Convention's rules concerning prisoners. Furthermore, capital punishment is one of the possible sentences for grave breaches.
More info from Convention (III) relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War, Geneva, 12 August 1949
Art. 13 - Humane treatment of prisoners
Prisoners of war must at all times be humanely treated. Any unlawful act or omission by the Detaining Power causing death or seriously endangering the health of a prisoner of war in its custody is prohibited, and will be regarded as a serious breach of the present Convention. In particular, no prisoner of war may be subjected to physical mutilation or to medical or scientific experiments of any kind which are not justified by the medical, dental or hospital treatment of the prisoner concerned and carried out in his interest.
Likewise, prisoners of war must at all times be protected, particularly against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity.
Measures of reprisal against prisoners of war are prohibited.
Art. 14 - Respect for the person of prisoners
Prisoners of war are entitled in all circumstances to respect for their persons and their honour.
Women shall be treated with all the regard due to their sex and shall in all cases benefit by treatment as favourable as that granted to men.
No physical or mental torture, nor any other form of coercion, may be inflicted on prisoners of war to secure from them information of any kind whatever. Prisoners of war who refuse to answer may not be threatened, insulted, or exposed to unpleasant or disadvantageous treatment of any kind.
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To be filed under "can it get any worse":
The family of the young woman photographed with stacked, nude bodies say she's being used as a "scapegoat", and they are "furious" with the President because evidently the President has "no idea what (the deployed troops) are going through".
Maybe you should have to fill out a questionnaire before you can serve that asks things like: "Do you know what personal accountability is? Does your family?"
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Jo on May 6, 2004 07:53 AM
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I don't know what the problem is, but there is a pinging/trackback error every single time I post over the last two days. Normally it only happens when I link another site/post, but now it's happening even on entries that are wholly self-contained.
What that means to you: I may be posting, but you won't be seeing it if you are looking at a Blogrolling Auto-update blogroll like the ones at Ipse Dixit, Resurrection Song, or blogoSFERICS.
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Ping manually at blogrolling.com and it will show the updates. I've been having the same problem recently and occasionally use the manual ping to remind the world that I exist.
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zombyboy on May 5, 2004 05:56 PM
When you last suggested that solution to me, I researched and found that blogrolling.com is yet another site to which my access is blocked at work. YEARGH!
But I'll try that from home soon.
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Nathan on May 5, 2004 06:22 PM
You might try checking and see if the pingomatic is blocked...blogrolling is one of the sites you can ping from it.
http://pingomatic.com
posted by
Deb on May 6, 2004 07:45 AM
Yep, I can get there.
Thanks!
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Nathan on May 6, 2004 01:44 PM
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I have a band-aid on my right ring-finger.
No big deal, it's a minor wound...probably equal in seriousness to two of the three injuries Kerry used as pretexts to get Purple Hearts...
But the most interesting thing is that since it partially covers the bad of the fingertip, it is significantly affecting my typing adversely. I'm mis-spelling all over the place. Frustrating, irritating...and fascinating in its glimpse into the complexity of the brain-ability feedback loop that can be impacted by a minor sensory-input variation.
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since you're the military guy...
do you have to *request* medals, or are they just given to you?
Just curious.
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Jo on May 6, 2004 07:49 AM
You can get awards and decorations a variety of ways.
Usually, someone who thinks you deserve an award will submit a packet for you, which is basically just a form filled out with supporting documentation of why you should receive it. That gets run up the chain of command where different levels can approve or deny it.
If you think you really deserve an award, you can push your immediate commander to put you in for one.
Often, many commanders will make you write your own evaluations or recommendations for awards/classes/positions, because they figure you know what you did that was deserving better than they do...but then they still review it for BS.
However, that applies to non-combat achievement "pat-on-the-back" awards. A Purple Heart award is supposed to be for injuries sustained in combat, and I have no idea what the rules are for that...I do know that there are some awards that all you have to do is bring the supporting documentation (i.e., deployment orders showing how long you were deployed to a combat zone) to get the award based on clear-cut, definitive criteria. Since no one has to necessarily judge how bad the wound was to get the award, I can see that probably all you'd need is a doctor's note...but I have no direct experience with it.
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Nathan on May 6, 2004 01:40 PM
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From my Statcounter stats:
16 United States
13 Italy
4 France
4 Canada
4 Malaysia
3 Switzerland
2 Ukraine
2 Germany
2 Belgium
2 Turkey
2 India
1 Egypt
1 - -
1 Greece
1 New Zealand
1 Thailand
1 Taiwan, Province Of China
1 Luxembourg
1 United Kingdom
I like having international visitors. It makes me feel cosmopolitan and nuanced, ya know?
And Site Meter says that my visitors are arriving from 13 different time zones. Cool...
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I'm suspicious of that country named "--". I'll bet bin Laden is reading your blog.
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McGehee on May 6, 2004 05:04 PM
...so all we need to do is follow his IP address back to his cave?
Nah, I actually think that's one of those made-up countries, like Transylvania, or Moldova, or Suriname.
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Nathan on May 6, 2004 08:18 PM
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I stopped watching baseball in 1985, just after the Royals won the World Series, and, incidentally, the last year the Royals were competitive.
Football has been my sport, and I've considered Major League Baseball to be silly and a waste of time.
Apparently, so does Major League Baseball.
[There are two different link there. --ed. Yeah, so?]
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I still love Baseball. This, however, makes a mockery of a fine sport.
posted by
Jo on May 6, 2004 09:48 AM
YES!!!! WOOO WOOOO! DOWN WITH BASEBALL! UP WITH HOCKEY!!! YAAAAA!! LETS SHOW THESE WIMPS WHAT A 'SPORT' REALLY IS!
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Sara on October 12, 2004 06:30 PM
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Just When You Thought PC Couldn't Get Any Dumber
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Somebody has to do something asinine like this.
It's blackmail. It's idiotic. It's a waste of everyone's time.
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May 04, 2004
I'm #3 on a Google Search for "Churchill liberal heart conservative brain", which is due to my repeating Churchill's quote, "If you are young and are not a Liberal, you have no heart; if you are older and are not Conservative, you have no brain.*
Woohoo!
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On Easter:
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From the looks on their faces, I'd guess he just took three of her eggs!
posted by
Stephen Macklin on May 4, 2004 07:51 PM
I'm so glad to see these smiley photos of her. ;)
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Jo on May 5, 2004 07:14 AM
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Anyone else see a Sitemeter Spike of epic proportions in the making?
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Is that the beginning of an Instalanche? I got one last year that brought over 3500 visitors in 24 hours. Got so heavy monetary damage from bandwidth overusage for my troubles. ;)
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Tiger on May 4, 2004 12:58 PM
Actually, it's an "Amish Tech Support Catblogging-alanche". If that's a real word. (I'm thinking it's not. --ed. Hush, you.)
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A Flip-Flop I Can Agree With
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"It appears, as they peel away the weapons of mass destruction issue - and we may yet find them," [Kerry] told host Chris Matthews. "Look, I want to make it clear. Who knows if a month from now, three months from now, you find some weapons? You may."
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What does he know, that we don't? Think he's just hedging his bet.
posted by
Patrick on May 4, 2004 03:19 PM
Oh, I'm sure he doesn't know anything.
But many people have said for months that the lack of success in searching for actual examples of WMD means "Bush Lied!", despite the fact that many other people (me included) have said that there are at least three ways that President Bush was 100% correct that we still wouldn't find WMD:
1) Saddam destroyed it at the last minute
2) Saddam moved it into Syria
3) Saddam hid it too well
Now that the Democrat presidential candidate says we might still find it, it lends support to those of us counseling patience, and undermines those who use that issue to attack President Bush and his policies.
So I appreciate Kerry's honesty on this issue, even if it comes from a weasely, self-serving motivation.
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May 03, 2004
The inimitable Glenn Reynolds rounds up some opinions on Iraq for us.
I agree with the main thrust, that we've got to get Iraq right, we can't afford to get this one wrong.
Here's a link to another view...including links to still other views
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I agree with that because cleaning up/clearing out Iraq was a major step in the Global War on Terror. Afghanistan was the first step. Iraq, far from being a dstraction in the War on Terror, was an excellent second step that has already reaped substantial benefits in Libya, the Levant, and even Iran. These benefits far outweigh some of the setbacks like the Madrid bombing and the April insurgency crest...however, these certainly are setbacks.
The only thing is, I don't agree with the people who say we are being too soft on Iraq. I don't agree at all.
We aren't going to defeat the Iraqis, and we aren't going to defeat Islamic Extremists/Al Qaida adjuncts. The more people we kill, the more people will resist. Iraq is a perfect example of leading a horse to water but not being able to make them drink. They are a skittish wild animal that will balk at whatever we try to force them to do...rather, we need to coax them. What we need to do is clearly and consistently demonstrate that there is no payoff for terrorist actions.
That means not overreacting to provocations.
Why is that so important? Because we have several different groups at work there: Sunnis, Shias (or Shi'ites, if you prefer) following Sistani, Shias following Muqtada al-Sadr, Islamic religious mercenaries (paid in martyrdom and glory rather than coin), and terrorists. There's a nice little power struggle going on between these groups, and everyone is trying to play one off against the other. Sistani could have squashed Muqtada al-Sadr like a grape...but chose to let him be a thorn in our side to try and win greater concessions. But there's a dang good chance we didn't smash the insurgency in Fallujah to send a message to Sistani that we can handle certain levels of localized chaos for long periods of time and thus don't need his help if the price is too high. Further, showing restraint in not pounding Fallujah into sand helped prevent the insurgency from spreading...and yet the insurgents lost quite a significant portion of their manpower and firepower because we killed them every time they attempted to engage us.
And still, and still...I've said before, and I'll repeat: the key to resolving the Iraq problem and being able to depart is getting the Iraqis to stand up and police/guard themselves. They haven't shown the courage to do so...yet. But I don't think there is any genetic weakness on their part, merely a conditioned reluctance to risk their own necks. That's why the negotiated cessation of combat in Fallujah is so important: we give the Iraqis a chance to keep the peace and combat the terrorism in their own country with a hand-picked Brigade. I don't think the Iraqis will tolerate the insurgents killing Iraqi troops. I don't know if the Brigade will actually stay the course, or be effective in cleaning out Fallujah or preventing further forays out by the insurgents. But if they fail, then we can level Fallujah. On the other hand, I have hope that this will be successful. There are indications that Iraqi tribal leaders are growing sick of Muqtada al-Sadr and are checking around to see if anyone would mind them solving the situation...if they do, it will be an Iraqi resolution to the problem, and won't result in an uprising.
It is also important to remember, as Glenn points out: there are large sections of Iraq where there are no difficulties at all. This is roughly equivalent to a riot in LA happening at the same time as massive flooding in Sacramento and a wildfire threatening San Diego (remember, Iraq is as big as California...). And less than a year after Saddam was toppled, before the Iraqis have taken the first step toward self-rule, they have endure two major simultaneous body blows in the month of April without descending into chaos or civil war.
I know, there's still time for either one. But each day the fledgling nation doesn't collapse is a victory for stability. Oil production exceeds pre-war levels, power generation/distribution and water purification also exceed pre-war levels, and are quickly approaching 100% of demand...and the economy there continues to improve.
Let's see what happens in Fallujah over the next month...I'm betting the handover still occurs without major incident, after which the Iraqis will have more reason to fight for their own nation....and the problems start disappearing.
But we'll see. I admit it probably won't be that easy.
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I just want to emphasize again what I think the long-term effect of these actions will be:
Within the month, the EU and Amnesty International will bring up the issue of the International Criminal Court again, specifically linked with the most credible evidence they can prove of mis-deeds by US Soldiers in Iraq. They'll insist that the US sign on by arguing that the US Military covered up or minimized sentences, and that the ICC is designed for and would only be used to prosecute actions like these.
And if we fall for it (the domestic movement to sign led, no doubt, by leftists and Democrats), it will be a disaster for the United States Military and the U.S. Constitution.
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I'm a little depressed today, and it's affecting my blogging. I can't seem to get any decent political entries going...
So I'm casting about for anything else I feel like I can talk about with some authority...hence: a discussion of music, tangentially related to the brain itself.
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Back in high school, my main instrument was trumpet. I was decent, but not as good as I thought. Growing up in Montana does mean a marked lack of competition in certain skill/talent-based abilities like that. I made All-State. Yay.
In any case, trumpet is generally played with the right hand manipulating the keys and the left hand holding the piston cases. Both right-handed and left-handed players did this...
...which doesn't really make sense, if you consider handedness to be such genetic destiny that they have to design left-handed guitars, right?
At one point, I was screwing around and switched so I was manipulating the keys with my left hand instead. I wasn't really showing off, I don't think, and there wasn't really any reason to do it. Kids are stupid, I guess.
But the interesting result was that I found out I could actually learn songs more quickly that way. If there was a difficult fingering passage that would take about an hour of practice to learn the normal way, I could learn it in about half the time just by switching my hands and practicing.
Why?
I think it's because I involved the opposite brain in practicing the sequences of finger movements, and the result was greater facility...
I'm not sure, though, because I'm no expert in brain hemisphere functions. I just know that doing anything with the wrong hand feels awkward...unless you really keep at it. I'm right-handed, and most of us righties would say we can't do things with our left hand. But I've found that feeling of awkwardness only lasts for a few hours, and if you really press on, you will start to feel comfortable with doing the action with your left hand. Seriously. Handedness seems less to do with actual final ability and more with which hand we want to try and use first.
No real point to this article, just that the mind is far more flexible than I think most people realize.
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I purchased a guitar amp last week:
The Roland Micro Cube.
I was thinking about buying a tiny amp for about $30 that I could take on my next deployment to the Middle East (coming up soon...), but the salesman said I should check out the Roland. For 4-5 times the price, I wasn't sure...
...but I was sure as soon as I tried it out. This is an awesome guitar amp! It puts out just about as much sound as my other practice amp, but is a fraction of the size and weight. The sound is every bit as good as they claim; I sound like a better guitarist on this amp, and that encourages me to play more often for longer periods.
Sure, it's too small for a jam session; but my old method was to use the practice amp as a head plugged into a 4-speaker 200-watt bass amp anyway, and this will do the same thing. I can now sell my digital effects processor and larger practice amp for about what it cost to buy this one.
Yeah, yeah, the digital effects pedal can create a wider range of sounds, and has an auto-wah, so I'll be restricting myself somewhat if I seel it. And one thing I would say is a drawback on the Micro-Cube is that you have to reach out and twist knobs to change a sound...you can't just step on a pedal to get an instant sound change.
But those two drawbacks really don't bother me that much. Because, to be honest, the digital effects processor had a whole host of sounds I never really wanted or needed. Messing around with it never really made me itch to play, and certainly never made me sound any better. Even with fewer sounds on the Micro-Amp, I'll use the ones I have to greater effect...every sound I want to make can be produced with just this little amp. And with only 6 "AA" batteries, I can play even without an outlet. The versatility that allows is amazing. It's a great buy, and I'd recommend to any guitarist who can spare $125 that s/he go try one out ASAP.
It's that good.
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May 02, 2004
...so I'm thinking...while more than a little tipsy, which is dangerous...that I've been looking all over the place for articles about pre-WWII bolt-action military surplus rifles.
The problem with most magazines and books is that they are attempting to push new rifles...advertising dollars and all....
But while I have experience with 20+ different types of old military rifles, in many cases I've only sent bullets down-range on one example of each type. Do you think I'm qualified to write a book regarding my experiences? I know I'd buy such a book, just to get somebody else's impression of these fine old rifles...but wouild my experiences be considered worthwhile?
...heck, I guess I can write it and let the editors decide.
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I have been lucky. When I lived out in Illinois, we had a gun club. And one of the members was a WWII vet who had an M1 that had been "lost" in the war. After shooting that gun, I had even more respect for the vets of the era.
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Gilly on May 2, 2004 09:48 PM
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