Herman Edwards says, "You play to win the game." If he really believes that, I'm not sure why he's putting Trent Green back in to start. Trent Green is 36 years old and has missed the last 8.5 games to a severe concussion. He received the concussion, in part, because he wasn't playing as well as he had in the past. I took a look at several Hall of Fame and Pro-Bowl QBs, most of whom were known for their longevity (I included Kenney and Krieg because they played for the Chiefs). I tried to look at QBs who played into the 80s, at least, in reflection that more is known now about the importance of conditioning. What is striking is that even among top-flight QBs, most of whom have won a Super Bowl and been to multiple pro-bowls, very few have good seasons after the age of 35. Based on this subjective list, Green has less than a 50/50 chance of playing good anymore. And that's only if you consider Green to be in the same class as Dan Marino, Brett Favre, Joe Montana, and John Elway. I think it more likely Green doesn't reach that level of talent. His general abilities seem equivalent to Aikman, Everett, Kelly...none of whom played well past age 35.
I picked the "last good year" based on a 60%+ completion rate and a positive TD:INT rate, or the last year the QB went to the Pro-Bowl. When the skills go, the drop-off was always dramatic. I hope Trent Green beats the odds, but it isn't very likely.
All stats from Pro Football Reference Dot Com
Player Age Comp% TD:INT Age at last Pro-Bowl Troy Aikman 33 59.5 17-12 30 34 59.5 7-14 Ken Anderson 33 70.6 12-9 33 34 66.7 12-13 Terry Bradshaw 34 52.9 17-11 31 35 played 1 game, retired R. Cunningham 35 60.9 34-10 35 36 62 8-9 played only 7 games Len Dawson 37 57.4 13-12 37 38 65.3 2-5 John Elway 38 59 22-10 38 39 retired Jim Everett 32 60.8 26-14 27 33 57.5 12-16 Brett Favre 35 64.1 30-17 34 36 61.3 20-29 Rich Gannon 37 67.6 26-10 37 38 55.6 6-4 played only 7 games Jim Harbaugh 34 61.2 10-4 32 35 56 12-11 Jim Kelly 35 55.7 22-13 32 36 58.6 14-19 Bill Kenney 32 56.4 15-9 28 33 50.9 0-5 Dave Krieg 36 61.8 14-3 31 37 58.3 16-21 Dan Marino 37 57.7 23-15 34 38 55.3 12-17 Joe Montana 38 60.6 16-9 37 39 retired Warren Moon 41 59.3 25-16 41 42 56.2 11-8 43 33.3 0 backup Fran Tarkenton 36 61.9 17-8 36 37 60.1 9-14 Kurt Warner 30 68.7 36-22 30 31 65.5 3-11 played only 7 games 34 54.5 11-9 35 62.6 5-5 benched for rookie Steve Young 37 62.3 36-12 37 38 53.6 3-4 played 3 games, retired
These are, for the most part, the best of the best. Bledsoe, Brady, Manning, Rivers, Brees, et al, aren't old enough to be included. I could have included Rypien, Eason, Kenny O'Brian, Doug Williams, Vinny Testaverde, Boomer Esiason, Phil Simms, Jeff Hostetler, Tommy Maddox, Neil O'Donnell, Bernie Kosar and the like but had I done so, Green's chances would look even worse. Still, even among these pro-bowl QBs, many first ballot sure-thing Hall of Fame QBs, very few play at a pro-bowl level past age 35. Most don't even make it to 35, much less play at the same level.
Even multiple NFL MVP winner Brett Favre showed a significant drop last year, and this year he's hurting his team's chances to win in order to try and break Marino's records. He's improved again somewhat this year, but completion percentage is way down, and he does his best as a game manager, trying to make the safe throw and avoid mistakes. Is there any hope Trent Green can do any better this year?
I'm hoping I'm wrong. I hope he comes out and throws accurately and smartly against Denver on Thanksgiving. I hope he doesn't come out flat and throw in the dirt like he did Sunday against the Raiders. I wouldn't want to bet significant money that he'll return to pro-bowl form this week, or even this season. I think his career as an elite starter is probably pretty much over.
I wish I had seen your KC posts earlier. Great analysis on QB's. Perusing the list it is evident that Moon, Elway and Montana were exceptional athletes, defying Father Time in a way few others have done. Perhaps Trent should have bowed out, his playoff performance this year says retirement all over it.
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2007 11:51 AM
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