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March 10, 2005

Religion and Politics (UPDATED) « Politics As Usual »

I've said this before, and no doubt I'll have to repeat it again, many times, but here's today's iteration:

My religious beliefs and faith do not dictate my political views. Rather, my religious beliefs form the basis of my understanding of human nature. That understanding fuels many of my political views.

And so I try to expand on that by pointing out: Religion and faith deal with the afterlife, and personal conduct within this life. Politics, on the other hand, deals with the interactions of people within a society when religion cannot apply. I cannot be upset with an atheist who covets my wife, because that rule is for me, not for me to apply to others; I can, however, ensure that there are laws against rape, or even attempt to overturn the 'no-fault' divorce laws that are currently the norm (so he won't attempt to seduce my wife).

I do not kill, and I attempt to not hurt others because of the 10 Commandments; but I would not depend on those same 10 Commandments to prevent someone else from killing me, and so I support laws, and police, and even the death penalty as a deterrent or ultimate solution for those who have come to enjoy murdering the undeserving.

And so I find people arguing about whether Jesus is a Republican or Democrat to be tiresome. I find people arguing that Jesus would or wouldn't support a specific political agenda to be dead wrong.

Please understand this: This world, this life is largely unimportant. It's only importance is as the precursor to eternal life. There is no pain or misery in this world that is not worth going through to gain eternal life. Conversely, there is no pleasure or comfort or happiness in this life that is worth losing eternal life in paradise.

Jesus didn't even seem to care about whether someone was rich or poor. He certainly didn't advocate governmental wealth distribution. In fact, personal giving to the poor was described as one of the many ways for a Christian to let his faith bear fruit, but the way it is worded, it has always seemed clear that the point was the effect that charitable giving has on the heart of the giver, not on the state of the person who received it.

So I don't really think Jesus would have weighed in progressive vs. regressive taxes. In fact, the last time someone tried to play "Rope A Dope" with Jesus on the issue of taxation, Jesus replied (as found in Luke 20:25), "And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's." And while Jesus hung out with the social outcasts of his day, he demanded they turn away from their sin...last time I checked, liberals howl as if tortured when someone asks that homosexuals "turn away from their sin"; heck, liberals scream indignantly if someone even calls the behavior "sin". Jesus made it clear that the actions were wrong, and he was there to speak to the people who were willing to listen and turn away from their wrong behavior.

It's gotta be humiliating to cite Jesus as a source of your political ideology and do so in a manner that makes it clear you have no idea who Jesus really was. (is)

UPDATE: Rae provides a link to a story of other Christians messing up religion and politics. Which is one of the reason I don't really consider myself a member of the Religious Right, even though I'm quite religious and quite conservative. I just see my views represented more by the folks at National Review Online, rather than Falwell and his ilk.

Posted by Nathan at 02:28 PM | Comments (7)
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"It's gotta be humiliating to cite Jesus as a source of your political ideology and do so in a manner that makes it clear you have no idea who Jesus really was."

Was...or is?

Given the very spirit of Christianity is an individual's personal relationship with Christ, I don't think anyone could ever nail it one way or the other, for all humanity.

Posted by: Jo at March 10, 2005 02:50 PM

I see what you are saying, and agree...to a point.

You cannot pick and choose what Jesus said. Either you are a Christian, or you are not. Either you agree and accept what he said, or you don't.

Sure, there is some possibility of some gray area, like, was everything really transcribed correctly...but once you get into that, you are doubting what God has said about Himself. The most logical and consistent thing to do is accept that Jesus is concerned with individual piety and holiness of the heart. If you start saying Jesus would or wouldn't drive an SUV, you have clearly strayed from the meaning and intent of Christianity.

The Bible warns us to not conform to present day society, but be transformed by Christ. Making a socio-religious argument on the basis of Christianity about any political issue seems to me to be absolutely misguided, and so on dangerously thin ice, theologically speaking.

I'll let your unintentional pun slide this time. Just don't cross me again like that, okay?

Posted by: Nathan at March 10, 2005 03:01 PM

*wry grin*

Posted by: Jo at March 10, 2005 03:11 PM

Oh, and I used the past tense because I was referring to what Jesus said 2000 years ago. It's a mental thing that I sometimes have a problem with. I would probably use the exact same wording if the subject had been, say, President Clinton during his term of office; not that I think President Clinton is dead, but his administration is over.
When Jesus walked on the earth, he had not yet died for our sins. His death and resurrection resulted in a fundamental change I do not fully understand, and cannot completely reconcile with God's unchanging nature. Luckily, I don't have to understand it. The finite mind cannot fully understand the infinite.

Posted by: Nathan at March 10, 2005 03:14 PM

Well-said, Nathan.

Check out Pdub's blog. He has something similar about the religious right thinking wrong actions are justified by ideology.

P.S. He's a Christian.

Posted by: Rae at March 10, 2005 08:10 PM

Since your in the mood to link, I found another quite by accident from La Shawn Barber.

:D

Posted by: Rae at March 10, 2005 09:46 PM

My religious beliefs and faith do not dictate my political views. Rather, my religious beliefs form the basis of my understanding of human nature. That understanding fuels many of my political views.

Which, to some lefties, is even worse. They would much rather that one's understanding of human nature be guided by principles developed based on the ideology that humanity is perfectable by government.

Posted by: McGehee at March 11, 2005 06:52 AM
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