Brain Fertilizer

Ultimately, there comes a point where we all agree.

Most issues, the same goals exist, it's the vehicle for getting there that's the problem. Right and left want to see less abortions. Typical left-thought is to do so by teaching sex ed and having birth control readily available to anyone who wants it. The right angle typically involves teaching abstinence. In the end we want to be in the same place though.

Right wants more jobs, left wants more jobs. Right often thinks giving business more freedoms/less taxation is the answer, some left (though definitely not all) think the answer lies in greater control on imported items and less outsourcing. Again, we want to be in the same place, but the way we think we should proceed is where the arguments begin.

And people, DO NOT make Nathan do something. It will be ugly. :)

You're reading way too much into it. Conservatives are simply dumb.

We may safely ignore Liberal Larry the troll who is neither Larry nor Liberal.
When conservatives meet liberals they not only have to confront them with their ideas, they must deal with the liberal arrogance that they believe entitles them to make the rules for the discussion. Think if our ambassadors were instructed to speak French.
Liberals place themselves in the group that includes all people of culture and regard conservatives as uncultured. When a disagreement becomes evident, the liberals assume ignorance on the part of the conservative. The naive conservative assumes that the liberal has followed a different line of reasoning in reaching their conclusions and is willing to debate the differences. After a few encounters the conservative realizes that the liberals believe that they have been given their insight by the anointed priests (professors, Dan Rather and other MSM types, and Europe) and they are not about to reconsider it at the behest of some rube.
Liberal arrogance dooms any real discussion.

I meant to say also that this accounts for the fact that few liberals are interested in commenting (other than derisively when they see an opportunity to show off their cleverness) on conservative blogs. They are so clearly right, what could they possibly learn from a conservative. Also, when they try to refute conservative arguments they find that they are so out of practice at considering any questions about their beliefs that they do a terrible job of presenting them to a questioning person. In liberal society one does not question things, one understands them. The only questions tolerated are those which seek FURTHER UNDERSTANDING. Other liberals will always take the time to help a new liberal further understand liberal beliefs. Tolerance of someone questioning liberal beliefs? Not so much. Therefore when a conservative (who is reason-based) tangles with a liberal (who is faith [in professors, MSM and Europe]-based it isn’t pretty. Liberals learn to stick to the liberal blogs where none of their assumptions will be challenged.

I agree with Jo,
We all have the same goals. Its just we disagree on how to get there, and each side has a different philosophy on the nature of man.

One side wants to encourage characteristic A, and discourage characteristic B. The other side wants the opposite, and is driven to discourage Characteristic A, and encourage Characteristic B.

(Sometimes, I think this is some crazy mixed up world we live in, when two sides, who tacitly agree on a shared goal, and at the same time have completely opposing means of achieving that goal.)

I know. Is your chocolate really in my peanut butter, or is my peanut butter actually in your chocolate? Why can't we all see that these are actually two great tastes that go great together?

Just admit that you have a crush on Jo.

Heh.

Okay, I have a crush on Jo.

..er... wait!

Was that question directed at me?

that is a good view, thanks for all!